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Hello folks, Hopefully I'm posting in the right place, if not I apologize in advance. As I said in my first posting I inherited a coin collection from my father and there are a few coins I have questions about. This one I found info about online but, a number of people say its one of the coins that is faked somewhat often due to being worth about $450 USD. Is there a way to tell or do I have to take it to a professional? I will include photos in full resolution on my onedrive and add a link here for you experts to look at. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AgKSlEQMVfS7kiIe85siux0sDmpuThanks in advance :) Stew |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Its a fake Stew since its silver plated over copper. Realeswatcher my question to you is "Is this a contemporary circulating counterfeit or have you seen these before ... it does have a lot of that Modern-ISH look to it. Probably 19thC but plating like this to be worn on the high points as seen in his link ... TAKES TIME.
I go into these fakes in detail in my new book "FORGOTTEN" coming out this summer 2017 - but to be honest Bob Gurney, Realeswatcher and others I do not see this type often --- let me know if you want to sell it to me for research purposes.
John Lorenzo
Numismatist
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Modern fake. I still see them at swap meets and they were common on ebay 10-15 years ago. |
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colonialjohn I know this coin has been in my fathers possession for at least 30 + years, maybe thats why it has some wear to it? As far as selling it I may as well as long as you are interested in it, not like its worth much as a forgery.If you like you can email me via my profile or I can email you. Let me know :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Stew - since its Modern Forgery and not a contemporary circulating counterfeit I have no real interest. Over the years for the 8 Reales PILLAR TYPE denomination maybe I have seen 3 pillars that some experts would consider struck by a counterfeiter in the 18thC/early 19thC. These are V.tough. Also - never say a forgery is not worth anything - the world record on a 18thC British 1/2d counterfeit is around $17,000. This coin appears in the appendix in my new book. It may be the World Record for a forgery? Banana Nose 1/2d. UNIQUE. Stew there are modern forgeries and forgeries that circulated with the real McCoy's called contemporary circulating counterfeits. MANY are worth MORE than the real pieces.
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Pillar of the Community
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Modern... as in later 20th century. Tourist-shop type replica.
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For the record: It appears plated to me with some of the plating worn off.  Edited by nss-52
03/16/2017 8:15 pm
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Oh, and you should review the board rules before you start trying to sell in here,.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks realeswatcher - not bad for a much later modern forgery. Perhaps too PERFECT (VVBG>.
I posted one in my new book ==== I think? is a contemporary circulating counterfeit of 8R Pillar - but if someone E-Mails me later and says it was probably struck in 1910 I am not going to argue. LOL. I just don't see any old one's if you know what I mean that are say EVEN close to being struck OF THE TIME PERIOD.
JPL
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I just don't see any old one's if you know what I mean that are say EVEN close to being struck OF THE TIME PERIOD. They pop up every so often................ ------------------- But in regards to the coin in question - another example, compared for posterity. Of course the design elements are all wrong vs. a genuine 1739 pillar 8R... but also note crispness of detail which was not possible anywhere near "contemporary" to when a 1739 8R circulated: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1739-Mo-SPA...232273110446 Edited by realeswatcher
03/19/2017 8:40 pm
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