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Here is another that I would like your opinion on for a grade and more important, value. Thanks!   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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VG-08, value maybe $50-60 bucks. Sorry, not rare, in fact common.  Edited by Coinfrog
05/21/2017 6:19 pm
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vg10. looks cleaned but may be mkt acceptable. $40-50.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Agree, acceptable, about as inexpensive as they come for the type.
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Pillar of the Community
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Are there an Seated Liberty experts out there?
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"Are there any Seated experts out there?"
Mike, why would you ask this question with spot-on grading provided by the majority of responders? Are you thinking this might be an 1847/6 example? If so, you are mistaken. Diagnostics for that rare variety are missing on your coin. That variety shows the base of the 4 and the lower curl of the 6 below the date (half-way between the date and denticles) and shifted significantly left.
Let us know your thoughts on this.
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SeatedNut, Yes, this is an 1847/6. It is a LDS and can be matched by the high and right of the date. The 1 lines up with an M3 which is only found in the 1847/6. The base of the 4 and the lower curl of the 6 is on the EDS (WB-102, WB-9) and not the LDS (WB-102, WB-10). All of the other 1847 varieties have the 1 lined up from l5 to M1. You can reference it in Bill Bugerts Register of Liberty Seated half dollar Vol 5. It is listed as a WB-102, WB 10. Please let me know what you think. |
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Regardless, it is a details coin. Scratch and gouge. I cannot speak to the over date designation. Not a bad looking coin, but it has issues.
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If it is indeed the 47 over 6, a grade of F-12 in The Yeoman 2018 US Red Book states its value as $3500, and VG-08 as $2500. Catalogue then places it at around $2500 to $3000 ? I have no idea on value, just thought I'd chip in. Catalogue prices generally slightly inflated aren't they? I'm interested to know what it might be worth.  |
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Mike, I don't have access to Vol V to verify date placement for the LDS coin, so I will trust your testimony. Your coin does indeed have an M3 placement and not an L5 or M1. If that is Mr Bugerts' diagnostic for the LDS, then congrats. I would concur with jpbone that with the obverse scratches and gouge this would only earn a details grade. Details Grades take away up to 75% of non-details values. For others not familiar with Mr Bugerts' date placement methodology, he references the middle three sets of vertical lines in Liberty's lower shield and calls them L (left), M (middle), and R (right). The line farthest left is L1, then L2, then L3 the spaces between lines are 4 and 5. M3 would be a vertical line dropped from the right-most middle line that follows down the right side of the 1 in 1847. We all learn something new every fay.  |
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Yes, I agree with the details (unfortunately) but I am still happy that I have this in my collection. PCGS has an image of both the LDS and the EDS (FS-301) varieties.
Here is something interesting. PCGS has a total of 29 - 1847/6 (both varities combined) coins graded and NGC has 4 for a total of 33 graded 1847/6 coins. For the 1878 S, PCGS has 32 graded and NGC has 13 for a total of 45 graded 1878 S Half Dollars. There are only two other half dollars in the series that have less, the 1842 small date w/1839 reverse and the 1853 No Arrows, both have 4 known to exist.
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Pillar of the Community
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So assuming that this is an 1847/6 and a grade of VG10 details, what would you say the value be on this?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Wow, $3K for an overdate that can't even be seen in a blown-up pic? I defer to you Seated Half guys, but this seems a bit nuts. |
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Yea,  w/ the Frog. When I expanded OP's pix, I see a solid 7, nothing around any edge of it where an over stamp would show. Really need to see side by side w/ OP's reference matls. |
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