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Possible Counterfeits? Calling All Morgan Dudes

 
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 Posted 01/21/2018  11:19 am  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1890 does not look right, especially the lower reverse. The 1921 appears authentic at a glance.
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 Posted 01/21/2018  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post larger, better resolution pics? It's hard to tell from these but I think they're real. In any case, if they feel real, weigh out correctly, and look reasonably ok, they'd fool me!

Also, on the link posted about 1879 fakes, they also appeared real to me. I quickly checked one of the pics on my slabbed Morgans (1893-CC) and found the stars also "weird-looking". There's just too many legit variations on these coins to pick out little bits and say it makes a fake, IMO.

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 Posted 01/21/2018  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cableguy815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not particularly valuable coins so why bother forging these? Doesn't really make sense considering the payoff. Looks authentic to me. The were both probably worn as jewelry pieces and then cleaned which may account for the odd toning.
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 Posted 01/21/2018  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not particularly valuable coins so why bother forging these?


Sorry but I disagree with this statement. The threshold for new counterfeits is incredibly low.
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 Posted 01/21/2018  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Any chance of checking the silver content with a Sigma Megalytics or some other instrument?


Yeah I know a shop that has one but it's a bit of a drive. I've loooked online for a used one before but didn't have any luck. All I found were new ones that run $600-700.
Also no chance of better photos. One of the admins took pity one me and was nice enough to modify these for me but all I have is an iphone. No rig.
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 Posted 01/21/2018  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not particularly valuable coins so why bother forging these? Doesn't really make sense considering the payoff. Looks


There is a large market for fake Morgans. The Chinese makers sell these for up to 2.00 each. Other sites like Wish.com has sellers who charge 5.00 and 10.00 for them. It is also not rare to find the fakes on eBay.

Fake Morgans are bought by people and taken to local flea markets etc. to fool the populace and sell them to those who have little knowledge of coins, but know what an "old silver dollar" looks like. A dishonest person, if they sell four of these at a flea market would make 100.00 for their 7-8.00 "investment."

The factory that was called "Big Tree" in China actually had a complete set of either BU or circulate Morgan dollars in a fake Dansco-looking album in their list of offerings.

I bought some when eBay allowed Big Tree to sell so I could study them. I posted several of the findings (such as the 1879 Morgan) on this forum so we all could benefit.
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 Posted 01/21/2018  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Fake Morgans are bought by people and taken to local flea markets etc. to fool the populace and sell them to those who have little knowledge of coins, but know what an "old silver dollar" looks like. A dishonest person, if they sell four of these at a flea market would make 100.00 for their 7-8.00 "investment."


Exactly. The scary part is local pawn shops give them a pass as long as they look legit and have close enough weight. There's not much scrutiny put on common date Morgans which makes them easier to pass off. The shop that these are from only weighed them and the guy who handles incoming coins isn't even a collector. He just calls me when he gets them in.
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