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 Posted 06/16/2018  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Meow looked at a lot of VAM descriptions for this coin, and could not find one that was even close. So Meow got scared as a new collector, thinking it might be fake.

From what has been discussed so far, it does not seem to be a fake.
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 Posted 06/16/2018  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SilverDollar2017 thinks it does not appear fake at all. SilverDollar2017 thinks that clear images of both sides will help see if the ANACS grade is accurate, and also help SilverDollar2017 assign a grade to the coin.



Just kidding. Although I would like some clear pics of both sides to give you my opinion on the grade.

Looks like a nice coin. I like the die cracks!

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 Posted 06/16/2018  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As already mentioned by several members die cracks on Peace dollars such as yours are very common. It's likely that most dies were pushed until they failed by the mint. Die cracks by themselves are not listable unless they progress to become a die break so to attribute your coin you would need to check all listings and with a little luck you may find a match.
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 Posted 06/16/2018  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Luckily Meow bought a economy camera microscope a few days ago hoping to use it to see and understand varieties in Meow's budding new hobby. So Meow was able to take nice close ups of the coin. BUT....it does not work well for taking large shots like the entire coin well at all. So Meow busted out an cheap old digital camera and attempted to show all here the whole coin. Not the best results, so Meow got irritated and lost the motivation to photo the back. But since there are some that seem genuinely interested in what this Cat dug up in Meow's upstart coin collection; That Meow will try again to photo the whole coin front and back. Please stand by, but it might take a bit of time. Thanks to all for your input.
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 Posted 06/16/2018  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photographing coins Meow has found is very difficult. The fact that coins are shiny makes it even harder. This the best Meow could do with what Meow had. Hmmm, Maybe Meow should have taken that photography class instead of the graphic design class in high school...... And cameras not made for paws........

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 Posted 06/16/2018  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You will notice that depending on the angle of the light source, some of the cracks disappear, like on the reverse. And become less noticeable on the obverse. Also this particular photo angle of the obverse obscures the third die crack on the bun of her hair in the back. The die cracks on the reverse are finer that the ones on the obverse, so Meow had to get the light angle just right to photograph the reverse ones. The one going through the second L on the reverse is particularly hard to capture in photos. The line you see in this particular reverse shot going through the L is a light scratch. The die crack that became invisible in this shot actually goes in the second L at an angle opposite to the scratch, and intersects it on the horizontal tip of the L. The scratch intersects the right angle part of the L. Maybe Meow has said too much. Will let the pictures do the talking now.
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 Posted 06/17/2018  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die cracks are common in Peace dollars. They don't add a premium to the value.
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 Posted 06/17/2018  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But on the other hand, would it lower its value? Since it has 5 cracks overall, Catsonally Meow feels it makes it a little less pretty.
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 Posted 06/18/2018  02:53 am  Show Profile   Check chafemasterj's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Catsonally Meow feels it makes it a little less pretty.


Firstly like many have mentioned the cracks are really common for these since The Mint ran those dies until they reached critical mass. They didn't take away from the grade the coin was given but maybe a little in eye appeal which is subjective. Personally I think the cracks give it a uniqueness and some character. Most anyone would be happy as punch to add this to their collection.

Secondly, the third person (umm cat) thing is growing on me and "Catsonally" is a nice touch. Have a nice week!
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 Posted 06/18/2018  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF!!

I'm not a fan of the Peace dollar myself, but MEEEOWWW that's one beautiful coin.
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 Posted 06/18/2018  04:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Meow is not much of a fan of Peace dollars too. But did not have an example of one in Meow's collection. Typical Peace dollars look awful. They are all dinged up or scratched up like the couch. And to get a nice one, one needs to get one in grade ms66 or better. Most ms65 examples are not very pretty at all, and higher grade can be quite pricy. So when Meow saw a reasonably price one that was so pretty, Meow just had to get Meow's paws (through holder or mittens) on one. So when Meow found this very pretty, and reasonably priced coin Meow bought it. But later found out that is was not all cracked up to be. With the emphasis on cracked.


But from what Meow has gleaned from others here, is that it is not a fake. And upon researching further, Meow has found out they do fake all years of Peace dollars; Even the common years. But so far Meow has not seen a fake with the cartwheel luster present. And Meow's coin cartwheels well.


So SilverDollar2017, do you agree that for a anacs ms65 it looks pretty darn good?
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 Posted 06/18/2018  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Meow did not expect get be so much enjoyment sharing about coin collecting. Meow bought a Morgan a day before the Peace dollar, and a Meow's first Walking Liberty a week before. Meow would like to share them with everyone. Meow has a limited budget, so tries to get the nicest possible with an affordable price. Hope you guys like them.

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 Posted 06/18/2018  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Meow found it difficult to find affordable Morgans with out noticeable dings. The Morgan Meow found is fairly dingless with only mild abrasions to her face. Hmmmm....Meow is now wondering what a PL or DMPL would feel like between the paws. The Walker is also a very pretty coin. It is totally blast white, and is the shiniest coin Meow owns.
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 Posted 06/20/2018  11:24 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice Peace dollar with typical Die Cracks.
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Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 06/20/2018  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks nice for ANACS MS-65.

I suggest you purchase PCGS and NGC graded coins until you have more experience. They are known to be more accurate in grading than ANACS.
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