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 Posted 11/09/2018  1:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
On the Ancient and Medieval Forum, there is a thread devoted to medieval coinage of the Kingdom of Poland, up to Stefan Batory (reign ended 1586). http://goccf.com/t/329294
Here, please post your "modern" coins of the Polish Kingdom, that is from the beginning of the reign of Sigismund III Wasa (1588) until the end of the Kingdom, 1795.

As with the other thread, we will progress chronologically, this time in two week segments:
Nov. 9 - 24 Sigismund III (1588-1632)
Nov. 24 - Dec. 8 Wladyslaw IV to Jan Sobieski(1632-1696)
Dec. 8 - Dec. 22 Augustus II to Stanyslaw II Augustus
(1697-1795)

As with the other thread, do not be bashful about posting coins from adjacent principalities with connections to Poland, and we can discuss those linkages: Sweden and Livonia were linked to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth at the end of the 16th and beginning of the 17th century. Silesia continued to flank Poland-Lithuania to the west, with ongoing ethnic and commercial ties, and Saxony enters the picture as well during the 17th century.

Let the posting begin!
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11/09/2018 2:58 pm
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Sigismund III Vasa was already the crown prince of Sweden (son of King John III) when he was elected King of Poland, and was crowned in 1587. He was the grandson of King Zygmunt I of Poland through his mother, and the nephew of Queen Anna, wife of Stefan Bathory who he succeeded.

He would be a prolific coiner: in the Gumowski catalog, entries from 817 to 1529 are under his name (that is, almost as many different types as had been minted in the previous 600 year history of the kingdom!)

He inherited the monetary union and reforms of his predecessor, as well as these 6 mints, which I've listed by both their Polish and German names: Poznan (Posen) and Olkusz, which minted for "Poland proper" (the old kingdoms of Greater and Lesser Poland); Malbork (Marienburg) and Gdansk (Danzig) for former Prussian lands on the Baltic; Vilnius for Lithuania, and Riga for the part of Livonia under the Polish-Lithuanian crown.

For the first 15 years or so of his reign, mostly smaller denomination silver coins were produced: denars, shillings (solidus), groats (groschen, grosz) and trojaks (3 groat, dreigroschen). Three additional mints were opened in the first years of his reign: Bydgoszcz (Bromberg, 1594), Wschowa (Fraustadt 1595) and Lublin (1595) and a 6 groat coin (szostak) was produced in addition to smaller denominations. Finally, a new Krakow mint was opened and began producing coins in 1600, replacing Poznan and Olkusz which closed in 1601.

Here is a 1589 trojak of Poznan featuring an early portrait of the king with a full beard Kopicki 923?, Iger P.89.1.a
On the reverse we have:
(Top) Polish eagle, Vasa coat of arms, Lithuanian knight
(Center) GROS ARG/TRIP REG/POLONIA (Silver 3 groat of Kingdom of Poland)
(Bottom) Poznan mint mark=crossed keys, I(shield)D, the initials and shield of Jan Dulski the royal treasurer. Date (15)89.
We'll see all kinds of small variations in this design appear across the different mints and years.


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nice thread thread topic tdziemia and nice coin
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@tdz, glad you provided the link here!

I've been waiting to post a few coins of Siggie III from the late 16th Century. Here are two from Poland. First is a Schilling dated (15)92 AD and attributed as Kopicki 620 (Malbork mint). Second is a 3 Groschen dated 1597 AD and attributed as Kopicki 1055.





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Super shilling. I think the engraver at Marienburg was the best of the bunch in the 1590s.

I'm pretty sure your trojak is from the Olkusz mint (5 mints made trojaks in 1597). I'm working on the subtype.
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Your trojak appears to also be Iger O.92.2.d. (I'm not sure how many 1597 trojak subtypes are identified by Kopicki).
92.2 type is distinguished from the 92.1 type by the narrow band at the base of the crown.
Type d has lettering R POLON MDL obv, and diamonds (rather than dots) punctuating the rev legends.

Here is a 1592 Malbork trojak to go with your shilling.


The ring and triangle at the bottom of the reverse are the mint mark for Malbork.
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Nice higher grade coins!
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Thanks scopru and IGE for the comments.

I think that Sigismund III issued so many coins that nice grades remain attainable, at least for the smaller denominations. There are many MS examples of the Malbork trojaks on the market. These trojaks are not large coins, about the size of a U.S. nickel, but the designs are attractive, and thaler size Polish coins from this era in nice grade run well into the thousands.

When we get into the 1600s with this ruler, we'll see some larger silver. At least 1/4 thaler coins, and hopefully someone out there has something even larger.
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Talking about 1/4 Thaler coins, here is my "Sigismund III" Ort (1/4 Thaler) coin from Gdansk (Danzig).

When looking at it mounted amongst many other coins in the coin shoppe it really "spoke to me". Definitely one of my favourite pieces.

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Beautiful coin, Squire, and glad to see you on this thread. Looks like it has its nice original patina. I'll post my orts in a few days ... they've been cleaned but I love them despite their flaws!

By the time your coin was issued, he's been on the throne nearly 35 years and has aged a bit. And the fashion for full beards had given way to the goatee.
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Thanks tdziemia

My one and only Polish coin of that time with "royal visage" on the obverse.
Fascinating comment regarding the fashion of the beard.
From my own reading the wearing of a beard during the Renaissance was a sign of masculinity, of having entered "manhood". Later beards fell out of favour, possibly because the clean shaven "open countenance" of the Enlightened thinker became popular in courtly circles.
The improvement of shaving implements may also have helped, making the shaving of the beard less painful.
Beards became back into favour in Victorian times, associated with the military and with the great explorers.
See https://dralun.wordpress.com/2012/0...-in-history/

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Here are my last coins of the 16th Century issued under the authority of Sigismund III. The first is a Schilling from (15)93 from Livonia (Riga mint). It is attributed as Kopicki 8116 and the flan may have had a clip when this coin was struck. The second is a Livonian 3 Groschen dated 1596 AD and attributed as Kopicki 8192. It has a pretty nice spanning die crack on the obv. The third is also a Livonian Groschen, but dated 1598 AD and attributed as Kopicki 8194.









@tdz, thank you for your previous help with the Iger attribution.
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Quote:
Fascinating comment regarding the fashion of the beard.
From my own reading the wearing of a beard during the Renaissance was a sign of masculinity, of having entered "manhood". Later beards fell out of favour, possibly because the clean shaven "open countenance" of the Enlightened thinker became popular in courtly circles.


Certainly there was some kind of cultural standard or norm that changed over time. For Polish coins we see Sigismund I (1506-1547) beardless, then his son Sigismund II (1547-1572) initially sporting a full beard of short length, and by the 1560s wearing a very long beard. In France, the early testons of Francois I have him cleanshaven, and those at the end of his reign (1540s) he wears a beard: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/resu...&results=100
Maybe these guys were following some fashion guru (today that's usually an Italian, not sure if it was also the case true back then).
Sigismund III's beard change can be dated to 1593. Some of the 1593 trojaks show him with a full beard, and some with the goatee.
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@spence, nice set of coins from the Riga mint!
My understanding of the history of this part of the Baltic:
In mid-1550s following the Livonian Wars, part of Livonia was ceded to Lithuania, and part remained independent as Courland. This first part became known as the Duchy of Livonia, but was under control of first Lithuania, and then, following the union of Poland and Lithuania, the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. SO, starting with the reign of Stefan Batory. we see coins with the Polish ruler minted at Riga.
I think near the end of SIgismund III's reign, this territory was lost.

I will check on the Iger attributions for those trojaks later. I've also got some die cracks on some of mine (though mostly reverse. That one's a beaut! But still a nice sharp portrait).

I'll throw one more mint into the mix with this 1595 trojak from the Wschowa (Fraustadt) mint. I've now managed to pick up a trojak fro each of the 8 mints that were operating in the 1590s. We've covered half of those mints in the thread at this point, and Squire has added in Gdansk which started up in 1600.


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Very nice adds and interesting information
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Polish poltorak (1.5 groat) 1623

Catalogue of Lithuanian half-groats 1495-1529 http://goccf.com/t/282866
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