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Is This A 1983 P LMC Rim Cud?

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2x2?

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Or die chip on rim?
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Rim Cud. You should be able to match it on the Cud web site.
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The rim Cud affects the outer edge of the die, but deserving the Rim Cud designation. A normal die chip affects the inner parts of the design/fields areas.
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Nice Rim Cud! Definitely worthy enough of a 2x2.
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Thank you everyone
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I doubt you'll find one listed. That said I'm sure it could become a new listing by some others standards.

I'd like to see the whole obverse to determine if the die strike was misaligned to start with. To me this image does not suggest its raised above or cleared the height of the normal design rim. Thanks, Doug.
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It creates a shadow on the rim on the left side of the rim Cud. It would have to be raised higher than the rim then.
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Lighting can create shadows in the lower portions of the gutter or false rim. Is it raised any more than the rim section above "WE"? A quick overlay suggests its not at this time. Thanks, Doug.

Adding: If the coins edge thickness of the section in questioned exceeds 1.52mm, or exceeds that above "WE" I'll most likely concede.
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Here you go:
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Definitely a Rim Cud, as it's raised above the rim.
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The 1st image suggest the obverse was slightly misaligned. For me all bets are off, unless the thickness in the area in question exceeds 1.52mm or exceeds that of the normal rim sections.

How can I say "it's raised above the rim", when the surrounding design rim is undeveloped or missing?

To me its seems common on misaligned die strikes. This ones does not seem to be listed. Would probably be listed if submitted, as other misaligned strikes are for this year.

My point is a rim Cud should reflect a broken die. The effected area should rise above the actual design rims height. A raised section in the middle of an undeveloped design rim does not necessarily suggest its always a broken die to me. Thanks, Doug.
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