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Lincoln Cent Struck On A 2. 8 Gram Screw, PCGS MS64+

 
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 Posted 06/25/2019  12:32 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe some mint employee got bored and said "screw" it!
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 Posted 06/25/2019  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some mint employee bolted out of work with it..
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 Posted 06/25/2019  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1993Z to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well said
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 Posted 06/25/2019  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. A bolt get MS 64 and the W quarters struggle to get above a MS65.....

They just lose a but more credibility in my eyes by grading something like this. Just a cash grab for media buzz.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting.
And notice how the obverse is a better strike. I'm guessing the collar die interfered with the reverse strike.

I would love to come across the next coin to be struck by that pair of dies. It would have some really great die damage to it.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dies do get a light copper coating of copper dust from the cents that they strike so a transfer of copper from the dies to the bolt is possible. Unplated planchets that get struck will also often have traces of copper on them from this dust on the dies.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And notice how the obverse is a better strike. I'm guessing the collar die interfered with the reverse strike.

Notice the bolt head is not damaged and that the other end of the bolt is intact as well. Also that the bolt is bent upward toward the obv side. The bolt was not IN the coining chamber it was laying on top of the collar and spanning the chamber. The obv was the hammer die and hit the bolt bending it down into the collar. So the obv side took the full impact but most of the force was dissipated in bending the bolt and it didn't make strong contact with the rev die. So on the rev the threads were flattened but only part of the design was transferred to the bolt.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought the coins were plated after they were struck ?
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 Posted 06/25/2019  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, just a slight addition to the screw bolt issue. Typically a Bolt needs a nut, where a screw does not. The exception to that rule are Machine screws, they have flat bottom like bolts but do not need a nut. Yet they are called machine Screws.

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 Posted 06/25/2019  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome find!
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 Posted 06/25/2019  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A plus grade no less!

Uh huh.



Makes a good deal of free advertising for PCGS.

As the grader mentioned, comparison with others is what they depend on to base their grade opinions.

Hence a reality check would have been better on the label such as "Appears like an MS64+ Lincoln."

Still cannot get over the plus

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 Posted 06/25/2019  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could have been a circulated bold before it was struck. Grades don't make sense sometimes.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey...great idea coop!

You could make millions opening up a PBGS company!

I think though I would included metal hardness into the grading standards as it might make it a bit more marketable and comprehensive. "First threaded" labels...Gear picture labels...man the potential is almost limitless.


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 Posted 06/25/2019  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Well they called that wrong already. It is not a screw, it is a bolt. A screw has a sharp tip. This is a blunt end bolt with a screw driver head on it.


It's a machine screw.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder, if the treads were stripped would it have received a "details" grade?
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