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 Posted 03/24/2019  8:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kyleg02247 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey all,

I came across this 1964 mint set from one of my dealers that was not in normal mint set packaging. I know the coins could have been just simply placed into this platic holder, however I have identified all of the die markers on the Lincoln cent, and believe possibly the Dime, and quarter are too SMS coins. I do not believe the Jefferson nickel or Kennedy half to be SMS but rather just normal business strike. I have 3 sealed 1964 Business strike mint sets including numerous 1964 business strike coins, however the above 3 coins mentioned appear to be completely different then normal.
Please let me know what you all think, thank you.



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 Posted 03/24/2019  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like a regular mint set in an after-market holder.
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 Posted 03/24/2019  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dime is not a SMS because of the die wear. On the SMS dime the devices are choice fresh. (new die)

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 Posted 03/24/2019  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the toning. Nice set!
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 Posted 03/24/2019  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/25/2019  04:13 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must agree. None of those are SMS coins, despite how nice they look.
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 Posted 03/25/2019  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post images of the die markers you have matched on the Lincoln?
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 Posted 03/25/2019  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also agree. See nothing that suggest that this an SMS, but just a put together set.
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 Posted 03/25/2019  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That dime, quarter, and half are very attractive. I hope you enjoy them
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It's still a good set that was put together.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 03/25/2019  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting toning; very appealing look!
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 Posted 03/26/2019  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kyleg02247 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks everyone for your thoughts, I will try too see if I can get close enough photos of Lincoln to see if I can show die markers, however I believe the Lincoln to be SMS if you look at "IN GOD WE TRUST" especially at the (IN) it is the same looking strike as all the examples of the SMS the Motto in god we trust looks fatter if you will or a different looking strike on all the Buisness strike 1964 cents that I own
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 Posted 03/26/2019  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kyleg02247 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, as far as the Dime is concerned, I was able to find this 64 SMS Rosevelt on PCGS registry SP65. The strike is clearly not as strong as the photo of the SP67 you have posted.
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 Posted 03/26/2019  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kyleg02247 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My dime also has a "satin" like finish and does not have the usual silver looking finish as for all silver 1964 dimes
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 Posted 03/26/2019  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The strike is clearly not as strong as the photo of the SP67 you have posted

Here is where you can see the difference between your dime and the SP65. The periphery of your coin shows a worn die. The tops of the LIB of Liberty and the bottoms of IN of the IGWT are not clearly defined. Look at the certified examples. Sharp definition.
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