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 Posted 04/18/2019  12:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Tenderfoot here, US citizen living outside the country. I'm looking for insight/advice as to the best/safest way to get a collectible gold coin obtained outside the US back to PCGS for inspection and grading. International FedEx requires description of contents and customs. Can carry on the plane but that requires declaration and involves TSA, customs, etc. Anyone here experienced in such matters? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you
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 Posted 04/18/2019  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where outside the US? PCGS has offices in Paris, Hong Kong, and China that you can submit too. If you want it back at Newport Beach you're going to have to deal with customs
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 Posted 04/18/2019  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would contact PCGS directly, either via phone or email, and ask them their best and safest way they prefer to get the coin. In the USA Registered Mail is the best, but as far as I understand that service can only be originated from inside the USA.
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For FEDEX International from Canada to NGC or PCGS I use HS#: 9705.00.00 and the description of Personal collectible numismatic disc(s) not for sale, Grading only.
And I've never had any problems.
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 Posted 04/18/2019  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Can carry on the plane but that requires declaration and involves TSA, customs, etc.


If it is your personal property, and not legal tender, is this correct?

From U.S. Customs website:

Gold coins, medals and bullion, formerly prohibited, may be brought into the United States. However, under regulations administered by the Office of Foreign Assets Control, such items originating in or brought from Cuba, Iran, Burma (Myanmar) and most of Sudan are prohibited entry. Copies of gold coins are prohibited if not properly marked by country of issuance.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your input.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Auction houses send gold coins through US customs all the time without issue. You are only likely to run into problems if:

1. It was minted in or shipped from an embargoed country
2. It falls under cultural property restrictions (usually only applies to ancient or Medieval coins worth six figures or more)
3. The declared dollar amount is high enough to warrant investigation, e.g. $10,000 or more.

Foreign countries have been known to swipe valuables coming through customs, but as long as you send it with tracking and don't raise red flags, your coin will make it through.
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Auction houses send gold coins through US customs all the time without issue. You are only likely to run into problems if:

1. It was minted in or shipped from an embargoed country
2. It falls under cultural property restrictions (usually only applies to ancient or Medieval coins worth six figures or more)
3. The declared dollar amount is high enough to warrant investigation, e.g. $10,000 or more.

Foreign countries have been known to swipe valuables coming through customs, but as long as you send it with tracking and don't raise red flags, your coin will make it through.
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Finn- What is your opinion of carrying the coin (US Minted) onto the plane from Nica to the USA?
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 Posted 04/23/2019  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say pack it in your luggage or carry-on and print out (or have handy in electronic format) the section of the U.S. Customs web site that tdziemia cited above.

edit: removed poor (checked) luggage suggestion.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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say pack it in your luggage or carry-on


If he's going to take it on a plane I would strongly suggest carry on. Packing it in the luggage especially in a foreign country if you get here and it's gone there's nothing you can do
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 Posted 04/24/2019  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If he's going to take it on a plane I would strongly suggest carry on.


ABSOLUTELY!

Most of the times my spouse and I have travelled internationally in the last 7 years, one or both of our checked luggage has been opened and searched for security purposes. That includes travel departing from the U.S. These days, never pack something like this in your checked luggage. YOU MUST ASSUME YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE WILL BE OPENED ON INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS.

On the other hand, I always deposit my loose change in my carry-on before passing through security, and am pretty sure airport security ignores anything looking like a coin in carry-ons.
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 Posted 04/24/2019  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If he's going to take it on a plane I would strongly suggest carry on.

Yes, putting it in checked baggage was not a well-thought-out suggestion. I updated my post.
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 Posted 04/25/2019  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again folks for all your input and advice. The only wild card that concerns me is how the Nica airport authorities here would react when they discover I'm carrying a gold coin out of the country...Any idea?
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tdziemia- just saw the tail end of your last post. That's probably what I'll do and just cross my fingers..
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