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1950 "Teardrop Abe" Lincoln Cent Error Revisited

 
 
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 Posted 04/25/2019  05:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Babyjay511 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'd like to repost this coin and reopen this topic for discussion to see if I can get some fresh opinions as the last received left me unsatisfied. Anyone ever seen the likes of this coin
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04/25/2019 05:51 am
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 Posted 04/25/2019  05:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@babyjay511, in looking at the last time you posted this coin http://goccf.com/t/292880), the general consensus was that the rim and Lincoln's face had both been damaged. Although your pic is a bit grainy, I also see nothing but damage. That is still just a scrape.
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 Posted 04/25/2019  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Babyjay511-
That was two years ago you posted it, what makes you think anything has changed?
I rotated and enhanced your photo to get a better look at the surface.
From what I can see, the rim has taken a hit that flattened it
and Abe's face has been scraped and has pushed the metal so
it has accumulated.
Neither of these could happen during the striking of the coin
so it is PMD
Don't argue with an idiot, he will beat you with experience.
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 Posted 04/25/2019  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% post mint damage.

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 Posted 04/25/2019  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Babyjay511 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spence, the strange thing is, is that it's not a scrape at all, ita more of a bubble with no damage on either side of it. I'm going to try to upload some better photos of it. My phone camera is Jenky at best but let me try to use my wife's professional camera.
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 Posted 04/25/2019  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just saying, you should probably send it in for grading if you think it is what you think it is, and won't take others opinions on it.
looks like a scrape to me also, abe's cheek has been scraped back, it doesn't even look like it should between the nose and the "tear drop" eyebrow also looks scraped back. Even the jawline is distorted because of the scraping. I believe the rim and the face all happened at the same time, post mint. maybe jammed in an automatic door.

Send it in for grading and you will know 100% what the professionals have to say about it and can put it to rest. probably worth the grading fees than to spend another 2 years wondering on it.
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 Posted 04/25/2019  10:13 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's all Post Strike Damage ( PSD) 100%. This is impossible to happen at the U.S. Mint, it just doesn't work that way.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/25/2019  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@bj511, clearly you are seeing something with the coin in hand that we aren't seeing in your pics. I encourage you to attach better pics, perhaps with a nice close up of Abe's cheek. In the end though, I hope you are willing to accept the wisdom of the CCF collective here.
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 Posted 04/25/2019  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this were a die caused mint error (that's almost 70 years old) others would have been found long ago! Think about it!
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