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1888 P Morgan..strange Transfer On Reverse

 
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 Posted 05/14/2019  6:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kdrcoinzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I cant identify this one..I thought it was a vam-12 when I bid on it but after receiving the first thing I looked for was the double ear but its not.. after looking over the reverse again I saw a blob next to the eagles left leg that I've never seen before. Figured I'd see what you fellers thoughts were..









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 Posted 05/14/2019  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are clash marks
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 Posted 05/14/2019  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
..however the photo of the left field,looks like a scratch to me...Cuds on coins have a great section on all denominational overlays..
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 Posted 05/14/2019  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kdrcoinzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its definitely not a scratch, I've seen that clash before on other years. I've never seen the clash/cud that is present next to the eagles left leg.

So if they're clash marks does that mean it isn't a VAM?
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 Posted 05/15/2019  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a heavily clashed reverse--the clash marks near the eagle's left leg are from the cotton bolls on the obverse. Similar to this 1886-O reverse:



Not sure of the VAM, it looks like a near date, but the obverse pic isn't too clear.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kdrcoinzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cotton bolls! That makes sense now, amazing that in my short time (about 5 years) collecting I've never seen that clash before.

Here is a better picture of the obverse

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 Posted 05/15/2019  08:00 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a different stage of VAM-12 http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...88-P_VAM-12A

See if it matches in hand
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
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 Posted 05/15/2019  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's VAM-24A. It shares the same reverse as 12A.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The date position does not match 12 so possibly 24.

edit to add - There is only one 24A listed in the SSDC registry with no LFCPs to confirm any pups that are not imaged on the 24A page.
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05/15/2019 12:06 pm
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 Posted 05/16/2019  07:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kdrcoinzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It closely resembles a vam-12a but as Dave mentioned the date is wrong. The world "america" is doubled on the reverse as well as the wreath on the right side of the coin ( from my point of view) it isn't tripled though as the berry doesn't resemble the one pictured.
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 Posted 05/16/2019  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paradimecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say scartch
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