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1995-D Kennedy Half Struck Through Gold Coin?

 
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 Posted 07/20/2019  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look above "WE" at a "C" looking device, the 2 feather looking spikes above Kennedy's head and other details around his neck
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 Posted 07/20/2019  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's always funny when people who "don't know how the mint works" are adamant that they have an error.
What I see with this coin is something was painted or taped on then removed the residue reacted to the metal discoloring it the marks around the sides are indicative of using a small tool to try and remove the original substance. I see nothing pressed into the coin
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 Posted 07/20/2019  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just another bubble in the polish. If the coin was struck with another coin on top of this coin, then the design would be altered with the design of the half dollar. I'm seeing a regular coin with an addition of something to the surface of the coin that is peeling off the coin. Eventually it will all peel off and then you will see the normal devices below what is on the coin. It is post strike damage.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see it. I can't make out an Indian head gold eagle any way I try it off these pictures.

Good luck with the grading though!
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 Posted 07/20/2019  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@hybrid, I'm not adamant about having an error, I'm adamant about an explanation. Btw, nothing is pressed into the coin, there are many "raised" features. Your explanation makes no sense
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 Posted 07/20/2019  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop, thanks for the explanation as always
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 Posted 07/21/2019  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1962penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
two coins glued to each other
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 Posted 07/21/2019  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whether it's old tape, fingernail polish or whatever it is, it did not take place at the US Mint. Soak the half dollar in straight acetone and whatever it is should easily come off. After that you should have a definitive answer as to what you are seeing. As for me I am seeing PSD.
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Again, just PSD. Not an error coin. There's absolutely no way that could have happened at the U.S. Mint. The minting process just doesn't work that way. Read this to understand how the minting process works. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coining_(mint)
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 Posted 07/22/2019  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I soaked it in acetone for 24 hours and a lot of "the gold" came off but there is still a lot more trying to peel off so I'm still soaking. Once I believe the acetone has done all it can, I will take more pics and re-evaluate. Is nobody else seeing the other markings that I am? Between Kennedy's neck and chin look like there is a different strike at a 45 degree running NW/SE that extends to the "I" in liberty. The lower back of his neck has other incuse markings, the incuse spot in front of his forehead & the incuse "feather" or "spike" looking device extending from his head to the "B" in liberty? I'm not trying to argue with u guys, I'm just trying to make sure everyone is seeing what I am? Especially whatever is connecting his neck & chin? I don't understand how some of these features could be PSD bc this one specifically would have caused damage to appear if it was after the strike but looks like it was part of the strike to me? I guess I need coop to explain that one to me as well.
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 Posted 07/22/2019  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherryPicker1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We keep giving explinations to your questions and your not accepting them. Those "designs" you seeing is just danage on the coin. Everything your describing is just from stains and scratches. If things are raised, thats because there is residue on the coin, which will be raised. This is nothing other than a regular 1995 half doar thats seen a long life.
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Also, read the link I provided on the minting process.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
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1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 07/24/2019  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do see something in front of Kennedys profile, that could be a clash of some sort. I would be interested in seeing it after the bath. Perhaps there is nothing there, and perhaps there is.

There is a tendency in human nature to fix on a single feature to the exclusion of others. I have seen, on these pages, a coin with obvious MD that was also a DDO/R. Yet the majority gave their opinion as MD. I say this as a retired investigator and interrogator. There is also a tendency to agree with the consensus rather than look the "fool". Mind you; I am not saying these others are wrong. I just don't have enough data to make an informed opinion. The gold color is probably some sort of post mint addition. But I do see the design...somethings...you refer to.

Good luck
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 Posted 07/24/2019  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe a more direct statement that sometimes when two coins are glued together and one is taken away, the remnants of the one coin's design are visible in the glue residue stuck to the other coin. We have seen a lot of this on this forum. The acetone cannot alter the metal in any way and should remove any adhesive or residue.
The additional "features" you are seeing are likely nothing more than the impression on glue residue (gold fingernail polish?) as well. If these features come off the coin with the acetone, then you know they were simply impressions in the foreign substance.
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 Posted 07/25/2019  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is still taking a bath. The residue is slowly coming off so it will be soaking until I feel like the acetone can't do anymore. The raised features I'm referring to are still there and not coming off with the residue such as the clash @jm is seeing. Hopefully I can post better pics in the next few days.
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