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1972-D LMC Doubled Die Obverse - WDDO-004

 
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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:00 pm Show Profile   Check CarlOmaha's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add CarlOmaha to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This Abe ain't pretty, but its mine!

The condition of this penny made it hard to see this one, at first. I used a little soap and water on it.

I think it is early die state, for it hasn't any of the die markers shown for MDS and LDS.







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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello CarlOmaha.

I don't think it is WDDO-004

WDDO-004 has very strong doubling.

EDIT: can we get a picture of the reverse?
EDIT#2: recommendation when posting a picture of the date, get a close up of the date with the MINTMARK... helps identifying variety. ...nevermind.. ou got a pic of that

Thanks

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08/05/2019 10:23 pm
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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WDDO-003?

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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whichever WDDO it is, nevertheless, great find!
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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Check CarlOmaha's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarlOmaha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Levelsofmadnes,

I've heard BlueRidgeSilverhound speak of you.

I would think that the circulated wear of this coin would lend towards the splits not being as well defined as a better-condition coin. How about you?

Here is the reverse, zoomed out. No close ups of reverse, yet. Just ask, if desired.



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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Check CarlOmaha's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarlOmaha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WDDO-001, 003 and 004 "are" very similar. I'll have another look around at the die markers and see if I can spot any.
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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome find!

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"Time is the coin of life. Only you can determine how it will be spent" -Carl Sandburg
Some of my best/favorite finds:

1859 IHC RPD FS-303 S-3: http://goccf.com/t/359464#3089369
1942 LWC DDO FS-104 http://goccf.com/t/344022
1941 LWC DDO FS-103 http://goccf.com/t/361222
1963 25 Type B reverse http://goccf.com/t/352858
1964-D 25C DDO FS-101: http://goccf.com/t/354851




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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find indeed,,,

nice pictures too

1972 and 1972 D I think are every ones favorite to CRH

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 Posted 08/05/2019  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You certainly do find a lot of varieties when it comes to the early 70s.
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 Posted 08/05/2019  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice DDO!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 08/05/2019  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hole_in_pocket to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definitely a DDO! great find!
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 Posted 08/05/2019  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love the 1972 D&S doubled dies, they are underrated and not often hunted for. They equal the strength of many of the Philly DDOs and are quite attractive.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 08/05/2019  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You taking the images the way that shows the doubling, but if you can move you light source a bit higher, it would help remove the glare on the edges of the devices. Maybe a sheet or two to bond paper to filter the glare and reduce the excess light. (when I see glare I wonder what it is hiding in that area, hidden by the light)
Lighting is better over the top of the devices:


Another way to ID a doubled die is to look close at die scratches on the devices on the attributed dies, then compare these with your coin to see if anything matches. I usually like to see three different markers to confirm a die, usually in different locations. Also it is not WDDO-002. Why? The direction is different on the doubling.
Just noticed also that coppercoins, CONECA (Variety Vista) and Wexler has the same numbers for 001-004 for all three sites for the same dies.
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1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 08/06/2019  12:36 am  Show Profile   Check CarlOmaha's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarlOmaha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Everyone for the pats on the back!

And thanks Coop, for the lighting tips. I have a Celestron microscope with the LED lights.

The LED's point straight down, of course. I use another light coming from the side to get different exposures for the camera.

The pics above of the entire coin are with the LED's on the scope. The others are by using the light (non-LED) from the left of the coin.

I have big trouble with nickel clad coins and the reflections from the light. Same with the newer, Red coins.

I'm open to any and all tricks for better images. I wish I could get ones like on Wexler's web page. I'm sure he's got a much better scope than I have.

I'll try the light source farther away from the coin.

Here are the very, first closer pics that I took with the LED's on the scope (dimmed down):






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Great find and congrats!
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