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Unmarked/Undisclosed Replica Of Louis Xiv Ecu From Russian Federation

 
 
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This replica of a rare 1675 Louis XIV ecu for Bearn on eBay.com caught my eye as a "first-glance fake"

Coin Thaler 1675 France, Sun king Louis XIV God-Given

This seller has a number of unmarked/undisclosed replicas on eBay. Maybe they are just too obvious to fool anyone?
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 Posted 08/11/2019  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

An authentic 1675 Ecu for Bearn from a cgb.fr auction (for comparison):
LOUIS XIV "THE SUN KING" Écu au buste juvénile du Béarn, 2e type 1675 Pau
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 Posted 08/11/2019  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin in the first photo looks so good it could have been made last week! Maybe it was?
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 Posted 08/11/2019  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure whose fakes are worse, the Russians or the Chinese.
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 Posted 08/11/2019  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll get them taken down tomorrow.
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Not sure whose fakes are worse, the Russians or the Chinese

In at least one case I am aware of, the eBay seller was registered in Russia but the "coins" were drop-shipped from China.
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I noticed a second seller of similar fakes that may come from the same source as above. Many of them are well executed; however this rendition of Louis XIV is rather comical.

coin, Thaler, 1711 France Louis XIII

The authentic ecu from a 2015 cgb.fr sale is below.
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 Posted 08/12/2019  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The replica artist most likely used the cgb coin as his model. True to the original, he included a gash (near BD) in the obverse portrait.
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Looks like these have been taken down.

There are dozens of fake Poland "thalers" listed at $30 to $50 by sellers in the Russian federation, equally obvious.
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Already back on eBay with a new user id.
Coin Thaler 1711 France, Louis XIII
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 Posted 08/15/2019  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Russians.
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 Posted 08/15/2019  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Our friend from the Russian Federation seems to have yet another user ID.

All the fakes for sale are "Acquired from the hands of the population. Not new."

There are a wide range of countries and types, both rare and not so rare. Worth studying to protect yourself.
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