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 Posted 08/20/2019  5:03 pm Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I sell coins on eBay and like to see if another seller buys them and how they present them. I'm not accusing Mikesmountainvalues of artificially toning coins but I'll let you guys decide. This 1903 Indian Head cent toned in less than a week.....





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 Posted 08/20/2019  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This gal buys a nice chocolate brown coin and now it's 4 diamonds and uncirculated. I sell to her for 8 bucks and she flips it for 36 bucks


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 Posted 08/20/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin has been dipped to remove tarnish. Seller has taken a nice orginal example and turned it into a messed with coin.
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 Posted 08/20/2019  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Luuucy...You got some splain' to do! Obviously, that toning must've happened during the transit of the mail when it was in USPS care and not by Mikesmountainvalues. (tongue in cheek) He also sells raw proof IHC from time to time....I'm not saying they're not proofs...I'm just saying you're never going to see me bid on those.
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 Posted 08/20/2019  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need to quit for the day. I like the retouched better
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 Posted 08/20/2019  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's a pretty good coin doctor, I like the new 1903 too lol.
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 Posted 08/20/2019  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1903 looks like MS 70, the 1891 looks like a problem coin
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 Posted 08/20/2019  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1891 looks like a toothpaste coin.
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 Posted 08/20/2019  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The 1903 looks like MS 70


MS 70 doesn't darken copper.
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 Posted 08/21/2019  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@basebal21, you're right, it doesn't in the cases I've seen, but I was referring to the blue color. Also perhaps the seller darkened the photos to bring out the contrast.
What else could it be?
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 Posted 08/21/2019  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1891 doesn't look like anything except Plated .
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 Posted 08/21/2019  10:18 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No not plated, just stripped.
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 Posted 08/21/2019  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The idea of playing with perfectly good coins in hopes of maximizing profit is interesting and disturbing at the same time. I am not a toned coin aficionado, but the process is interesting. Take the following example (also from eBay) and answer this - could this type of toning ever come about naturally? I don't think so, but I'm asking the experts:

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There is nothing natural about the toning on the 1907. The coin is AT. If the coin found its way in a straight grade TPG, I still would not buy the coin if I was looking for a toned 1907. The eBay seller beachehrl1 is making a nice profit on taking low cost Indian Head cents and wheats then adding a little color.
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 Posted 08/21/2019  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What else could it be?


There's various darkening agents out there and methods that people use to darken a coin.


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ake the following example (also from eBay) and answer this - could this type of toning ever come about naturally? I don't think so, but I'm asking the experts:


Anything man can do nature can do, so while it is most likely man made yes it is possible that nature did it. That's why we go with market acceptable/unacceptable as opposed to natural vs artificial. Plenty of natural things look man made and some man made ones look natural. It's just a guessing game unless you have had the coin since the day it was minted and know it's entire history. Whether or not that coin was artificial or natural it wouldn't be acceptable either way.
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