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 Posted 10/12/2019  4:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Beedles to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
letters look fat and off weird! Is this a error? TY for taking the time to read .






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 Posted 10/12/2019  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beedles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/12/2019  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your 4th picture is much better than the others.

It appears to be DDD to me.
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 Posted 10/12/2019  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Late Die State coin with heavy Die Deterioration Doubling. Nothing special here. Go ahead and see my tutorials for more information, in my signature box below.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 10/12/2019  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
videos are no help. The images are had to tell exactly what is going on, but it looks like the die that struck you dime is showing a great deal of die wear. How can you tell when this happens?
1. Die flow lines in the fields.
2. Distorted devices that have lost all freshness that the die had when it was new.
3. also the shape of the devices. If the devices are wider near the rims and normal sized towards the centers, that is one of the ways to tell if the die is really worn when a coin is struck. Here is an illustration of die wear:

Note the top image looks normal, but if you look at the edge of the devices that are closest to the rim, they are no longer squared, but starting to round over. (Hard to see from the image, but that is how die wear starts to show up on coins. Then note on the second image: Note that edge that is closest to the rim direction is starting to distort. Basically the die is breaking down and showing die wear more. On the third image: The devices are reaching the VLDS die state when this coin was struck. Note how the outer edges of these devices are distorting. But also note, the fields are starting to move towards the rim. (Also not that this is already starting also on the second image on the field areas.
But does this get even worse as the die continues to wear?

Note how the die continues to break down. This die should have been retired, but wasn't. This coin is proof of that.

4. Also noted on your coin is Machine Doubling. This is not a doubled die issue as a doubled die have the doubling on the die. But Machine Doubling is caused right after the strike. The die swings over and damages an area on the devices in one direction (or more) always leaving a flattening on the coin.

A doubled die enlarges the devices, Machine Doubling reduces the devices.

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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/12/2019  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beedles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry new to this trying to give you better shots. The torch has a fat look to it on the coin it sticks out way more then reg coin. TY all for the info, coin worth grading? or sell as is?




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 Posted 10/12/2019  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a face value coin. Why would you spend money to have it graded when it costs more than it is worth to grade it? To me it would be like having a totaled car, and spend a lot of money on a new expensive car cover for it? It wouldn't make sense.

Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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10/12/2019 5:49 pm
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