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 Posted 12/07/2019  11:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add accordselux to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A friend needs to sell some coins she had in the family, and asked me to take a look. Since they're out of my area of knowledge, I wanted to post them here.












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 Posted 12/07/2019  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add accordselux to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My thoughts inspecting them: at least some of the collection is fake. These were some that troubled me.

Things I noticed:

1. Overall condtion/luster high for aged coins from a non numismatist.
2. Graininess on surfaces indicate casting to me rather than striking.
3. Some details don't look right
4. Details not sharp in general, indicating casting.
5. Some had overlapping reeding, a red flag.

In this set were two 1906 Ellis Island coins, which were never minted, so that got my attention and made me inspect them more skeptically. I hoped a few from the set would be real and it would be a mixture, but I'm not very optimistic now.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All are counterfeits of Chinese origins.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All are fake, but I think the Trade dollar may be the best fake
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 Posted 12/08/2019  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 12/08/2019  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ping tone test would reveal a lot.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but they are all Chinese junk.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good grief. Our sympathies.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayyk31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are all bad. They all look like modern Chineseum fakes.
Just for future reference throw the coin on a scale and weigh it.
Then see if the coin sticks to a magnet.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
....some coins she had in the family,...
These counterfeits are all of quite recent origin.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 12/08/2019  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Trade dollar may be the best counterfeit, but it is still a horrible fake.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dunno. The fake 1804 reverse with a scared chicken hiding behind a sloppy shield is pretty darned creative.
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