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1943 Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die - Similar To DDO-022, But...

 
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 Posted 12/12/2019  3:19 pm Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This one just won't match up as well as I'd like with anything. Looks a lot like DDO-022 but does not have anything going on under the BE and the doubling on the Y looks wrong. Also looks similar to WDDO-019 but this one does not have a doubled eyelid.

Anyone have any other ideas? Doubling shows on RTY and bowtie.

1943 Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die - which one or new one






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 Posted 12/12/2019  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can not find a match either, the doubling on the RTY is very pronounced. Excellent find!
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 Posted 12/12/2019  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same here... I could not find a match.

excellent find tropicalbats
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 Posted 12/12/2019  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can find nothing either but the 022 is the closest match. I think you may have a new DDO.
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 Posted 12/12/2019  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey TB I have this same coin waiting to go to Wiles. When I get home in 30 I'll post it here. I want to compare them.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
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 Posted 12/12/2019  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Grapes, You're up then! I've already got 10 coins with him so will be some time before I could send this one off anyway. You wait too long though and I'll scoop you!
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 Posted 12/12/2019  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I'll be home shortly, bummed a ride back from the Doc from the parents and am currently sitting in the last leg of traffic.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 12/12/2019  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm... after taking the photos I don't think they're the same die, but I'll still put the photos up.



My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 12/12/2019  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure either, but leaning toward no. But yours looks later die stage and so if I can find a die crack on mine it almost has to be on yours for it to be the same die. I will be heading out to a concert in a few minutes so that'll be later tonight. My son plays in the orchestra and I enjoy the performances.
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 Posted 12/12/2019  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have fun! There aren't any obverse cracks on my specimen, but plenty of die flow lines and die scratches with some great cracks on the reverse. Then again my reverse is VLDS.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 12/13/2019  07:16 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I made a side by side. There is a die scratch in the lower loop of the B that is similar, but after making this I'm pretty sure they are different dies.

My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 12/13/2019  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pound_foolish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grape - yours looks like a tripled die. That NE doubling is distinct from TB's. I can't match either of them up with varieties across the various reference sites.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  10:08 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pound_foolish, the NE doubling is Die Deterioration Doubling
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 12/13/2019  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the strongest doubling is the bow tie. The channeling seems pretty fresh. I don't think I've seen the doubling on the collar before. So it might be one to run by James Wiles? Is the eye affected?
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 Posted 12/14/2019  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice and cool DDO!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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