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Did I Just Buy A Fake 1923-S Mercury Dime?

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 Posted 12/13/2019  5:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This was too good to pass up, and now I'm thinking maybe that's because it is fake!? I paid just under XF40 graysheet price for this obvious AU coin; though it does appear to be an old cleaning - I thought it attractive enough. The dealer seems to be reputable on ebay, photos aren't great, and the coin looks a little rough, but with such a good strike for this tough date, I thought what the heck.

But look at the font of the numbers in the date. This is not what an authentic 1923 Mercury dime looks like. Of course I noticed this after making the purchase.

153760777401

Let me know if the link doesn't work and I'll post the photos separately.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hate to say it but I think it is a fake, better to wait for others to chime in but I feel confident that its not genuine.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had read about the fake 1923-D Mercury dime.

http://goccf.com/t/121928

Maybe this "S" variety is from the same Soviet counterfeiters
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12/13/2019 5:28 pm
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 Posted 12/13/2019  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% fake, look at the date
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 Posted 12/13/2019  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it right! Geez, I was focused only on grading details; complete blinders on to potential counterfeits. yikes. Thought I was safe in that regard since I'm not focusing on key dates.

Better take a step back: First, IS IT GENUINE?!
then and only then do you consider: uncleaned/original? luster? smooth surfaces? above avg strike? eye appeal?

It was like I was rushing a little too, like "woah this looks like a really good buy on this tougher date, particularly with such a good strike!" normally, a coin like this sells quick!

I bet the seller has no idea. Looks like he's mainly stamps with fewer coins.
Edited by one_fine_dime
12/13/2019 6:27 pm
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 Posted 12/13/2019  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 12/13/2019  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, and the LIBERTY lettering is too thin. Oddly, the reverse appears more authentic. Though the mm might be off...just hard with the slightly blurry photos.

Here's the description:

"Please see photos for exact condition and please see my other listings for similar items. The writing on the sleeve is just my coin dealer's opinion of the coin, it is not an official grading. Please ask questions."

Yikes, a coin dealer inspected this coin and it still got on ebay?! What the...?
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12/13/2019 7:32 pm
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 Posted 12/13/2019  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i would guess the 1892 Barber dime is fake as well. 163987805131

Date digits look all wrong.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure it's fake . The date tells all .
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 Posted 12/13/2019  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller has 100% feedback. IMHO, he appears to be a stamp dealer who cheaply bought some fake coins; this, likely thinking them to be genuine. He has, now up for bids, what looks to me like a "mint state" fake 1914-S Buffalo nickel (reported). If he's legit, as I suspect, he might accept a return of the 1923-S.

I hope Bobby131313 does his magic here ....
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12/13/2019 8:38 pm
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 Posted 12/13/2019  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yep, the coin WILL be returned. he has a 30 day free return policy.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the coin WILL be returned. he has a 30 day free return policy.


Might I suggest that you direct his attention to this thread? I'm guessing that these fakes came from the same source. He'd surely benefit from joining the CCF; this, should he continue to sell coins.


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 Posted 12/13/2019  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a one look fake, pretty bad. He has other fakes too. An 1892 Barber dime is especially bad. He has to know.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The odds tend to favor you assessment, Raymo. His 1888-S $1 looks fake, too.

Still, with 4,000+ sales, 100% feedback, his being primarily a stamp dealer, AND his offering a 30 day return, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're probably right Exo.
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12/13/2019 9:40 pm
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I really don't know why people waste time counterfeiting coins that are not real high priced ones. Profit is small but I guess a profit is a profit.
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