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 Posted 02/15/2020  9:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Old Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a John Tyler Presidential dollar with no edge lettering. I know this was a common error on earlier issues of the series. Is this error commonplace for the series? Is it common for the John Tyler dollar? Thanks.
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 Posted 02/15/2020  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@or, first welcome to CCF. Second, can you please provide a weight for this coin? I just want to make sure that the edge hasn't been shaved to remove the inscription.
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 Posted 02/15/2020  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Old Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a weight. I did measure it with a micrometer and the diameter is correct.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spence ids right.
VERY accurate weight has to be known, to enable any reasonable investigation to proceed.

The edge as shown does indeed look (only slightly) suspicious. May? have been finished with a 5,000 grade burnishing wheel.
This sort of 'fooling around' with a coin is tempting,
especially when authentic missing edge lettering examples are well known.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Looks like you are holding the coin with metal pliers,that is a no no.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heavymetal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Eeeek! with John1.

And to the ccf.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Old Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll check the weight, but the diameter matches all of the other coins I compared it to. I know it could be fake. I'm asking questions here because it could be real. The coin has been in circulation.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are known John Tyler Dollars with no edge lettering but I
think the hard part is proving it was left off and not removed.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Old Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll leave the proof to the experts. What I'm trying to decide is if the coin is worth presenting it for grading. Having an idea of how often this actually occurs for this coin will help me with that. I know the Tyler dollar was issued in 2009. This particular coin was purchased in a lot of 100 circulated dollar coins in early 2010. The coin has been sitting in a piggy bank since then. If someone tried to pass it off as a fake, they didn't take the most profitable route. I'll look around for a local collector. Maybe they can answer my questions.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Having an idea of how often this actually occurs for this coin will help me with that

That would be almost impossible to know but I did read somewhere that it occurred less often on
John Tyler Dollars than the earlier runs.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the retail value of a genuine one is at least $100 it might be worth having it graded and slabbed...up to you.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherryPicker1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't get it graded. In this condition, it wouldn't be worth more than maybe $50.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sirguardian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All that aside... did anyone notice the device holding the coin was a metal clamp?
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 Posted 02/16/2020  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Old Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed it, several others did, too.
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 Posted 02/16/2020  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin wear would drop the price drastically.
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 Posted 02/17/2020  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight won't tell you anything. The lettering is shallow enough that shaving down the edge won't move it out of the mint tolerance range.
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