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1911 $5 Counterfeit?

 
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 Posted 06/03/2020  11:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MasterKromm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
He guys, I stumbled across this 1911 $5 Indian, it is mounted(damaged) in a bezel and has a 14k chain too I am thinking of buying it as a gold play... But the reverse seems quite off to me. That said, the photograph of the coin is very small, maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me. Any insight would be much appreciated.







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 Posted 06/03/2020  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks fine to me
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 Posted 06/04/2020  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks funky to me.

If you can test the coin, bezel and chain BEFORE buying it that would be best. Otherwise, I would pass.

I would only buy it if the gold tests good and you can get the deal below melt value.

Others may have a different opinion.
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 Posted 06/04/2020  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse looks kind of okay to me. The reverse just looks wrong. Could be the lighting, but I have to think you can do better than this.
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 Posted 06/04/2020  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remove the coin from the bezel, and and check for weight.
Should be XRF'ed for 90% Au.

Buy it at 14K for total weight. The coin is most probably damaged by the bezel mount. Best kept for jewelry.
If the coin is kept by itself, what would you do with the empty bezel?
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 Posted 06/04/2020  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from these photos. Can you post larger photos?
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 Posted 06/04/2020  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you buying this from a dealer, and if so, what kind of shop?
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 Posted 06/04/2020  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pass - The coin may not be gold as the marks or lack of are not typical for gold.
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 Posted 06/04/2020  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MasterKromm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found the coin/chain on icollector, thus I have no way of weighing it or using my Sigma Metalytics Verifier Pro on it... Here is a link to the coin ->

https://www.icollector.com/Indian-H...in_i37347837

Oh and here is another gold coin that looks "wrong" to me, but not a big expert on $1 coins -> https://www.icollector.com/1853-Lib...in_i36849890

Auction results with search term "gold" applied -> https://www.icollector.com/ESTATE-A...ld&hi=0&vm=1

The auction group has other gold coins, most of which look legit, but I am not really interested in them anymore given the risk and potential time sink involved.
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