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Where To Get Unsearched LWC Rolls? - For Varieties

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 Posted 08/03/2020  1:30 pm Show Profile   Check SilverCents's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Alright so I know that the best place for these, in my experience, is my LCS. However I'm not in the state right now and won't be for awhile, so I want to try to buy Wheat cent rolls elsewhere.

I don't know about buying from eBay as most "unsearched" rolls, are indeed searched. However, I want to search them for varieties, not dates. So I think it's fair to assume that I won't get any truly unsearched rolls from eBay, but will the owner also have searched them for varieties as well?

Thanks!
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08/03/2020 4:47 pm
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 Posted 08/03/2020  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next to impossible to say if 'bulk' wheat cents sold on ebay have been well-searched for varieties or not. In my experience, the best bet is to buy bulk lots of wheat cents from coin shops--wherever you're at. Over time I've bought 50,000+ wheat cents in large lots. Some cents will be junk culls, and a very few will be semi-keys. I've only found five or six legit key dates that way. A relatively good number of woodies, lamination peels, die chips, and die cracks show up. Again, low numbers of true doubled dies and repunched mint marks--maybe 30 for me over that time. Same for easily discernible varieties--maybe a couple dozen total.

Most (not all) coin shops simply don't have the time to put several thousand wheat cents under a microscope one-by-one, much less a hand loupe. Most shop owners/staff are good at quick visual checks for semi-keys and keys. Most coin shops have a very good idea where their bulk wheats are coming from, so they tend to trust whats coming into the shop.
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 Posted 08/03/2020  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Check SilverCents's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So that is kind of the issue. I don't actually have a good LCS near me. I've got only one that deals in just gold and silver. Doesn't have any wheat cents or anything like that.

So that's why I'm trying to use eBay, as that's pretty much the best online source for coins. What would you recommend me do relating to buying lots on eBay? How big should the lots be? What should I look for?
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Variety Want List: http://goccf.com/t/373255
Best DDO Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/375247#3218314
Best LMC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378053
Best LSC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378041
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08/03/2020 7:03 pm
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 Posted 08/03/2020  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Build a time machine and go back to between 1909 and 1959. Then you will have a fair chance of finding actual unsearched Wheat cent rolls.
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 Posted 08/03/2020  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Check SilverCents's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man why didn't I think of that?

I know it's going to be quite impossible to find any unsearched rolls on eBay, relating to dates.

But I'm wondering if most of the rolls being sold are pretty well checked for varieties? Has anyone had any luck on them?
"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get." - Forrest Gump

Variety Want List: http://goccf.com/t/373255
Best DDO Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/375247#3218314
Best LMC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378053
Best LSC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378041
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 Posted 08/03/2020  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could try to contact a coin shop using emal or the web. Explain what you want and see if they have rolls to sell. I recommend this shop:
https://portsmouthcoinshop.com/

I wish I lived closer to his shop. From watching his youtube videos you will find he is very honest and knowledgeable.
His youtube channel has helpful videos for numerous topics on coins.
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 Posted 08/03/2020  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Check SilverCents's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a decent idea. I might try that.

I've checked out both his YT channel and the shop, they look very genuine! I'll see what I can do.


Thanks!

EDIT: If anyone has any experience relating to searching through Lincoln rolls on eBay for varieties, let me know, I would like to hear their story.
"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get." - Forrest Gump

Variety Want List: http://goccf.com/t/373255
Best DDO Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/375247#3218314
Best LMC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378053
Best LSC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378041
Edited by SilverCents
08/03/2020 8:37 pm
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 Posted 08/03/2020  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most bulk sellers are passing along bulk lots gathered by other large volume sellers. Most sellers simply don't have the time to examine each coin for errors and varieties. The more noteworthy/valuable material was pulled a long time back--most of it that is. Experienced sellers may quickly scan a lot of coins for the big ticket items, but again, most don't thoroughly examine each and every coin--particularly under a microscope. As such, some 'not visible to the naked eye' errors and varieties can slip through.

Good luck!.
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 Posted 08/03/2020  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A while back I did acquire several hundred rolls through ebay over the span of a few months just for fun--stayed away from the sellers having Mercury dimes as end coins. On average, I paid $5-$8 per roll. Bought from four or five sellers. Never found anything wildly valuable, but did come across decent quality (VG) semi-keys, a few nice RPMs, nice woodies and lamination peels, some cool die cracks and chips, and a F 22D and a XF 1909 vdb. And a few Indian Head cents too.
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 Posted 08/03/2020  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've had luck on eBay finding sellers who had lots, but who were not coin dealers. So in other words, people who were just unloading cents but had no dog in the race. These sellers are difficult to find, but the harder the times (like now), the easier it is to find them. Good luck!
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 Posted 08/03/2020  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Check SilverCents's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both ijn1944 and merclover for the advice.

What are the signs of a seller than doesn't really collect coins, but is trying to unload them? Got any examples perhaps?
"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get." - Forrest Gump

Variety Want List: http://goccf.com/t/373255
Best DDO Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/375247#3218314
Best LMC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378053
Best LSC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378041
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 Posted 08/03/2020  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What are the signs of a seller than doesn't really collect coins, but is trying to unload them?

It's all in research. Check their feedback to see what they sell in general and check their other items currently for sale. If for example, it appears they primarily sell toys and their feedback confirms this, if they have some wheatie rolls, there is a good chance they haven't been well picked over. But, on the other hand, you have a seller selling cent rolls and says they haven't been searched and all their feedback reflects they are a coin dealer, in general you just busted them. No guarantees this strategy always works, but basically it's a positive step in your favour. Good luck!


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 Posted 08/04/2020  11:42 am  Show Profile   Check SilverCents's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot for the help Merclover, I'll see what I can find!
"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get." - Forrest Gump

Variety Want List: http://goccf.com/t/373255
Best DDO Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/375247#3218314
Best LMC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378053
Best LSC DDR Found CRHing: http://goccf.com/t/378041
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 Posted 08/05/2020  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Every Wheat cent I have posted here has been from a single bag of 5000 I purchased off ebay at:

https://www.ebay.com/usr/pgsgoldand....m2749.l2754

It was 5 cents a coin with shipping / tax. I checked the photos and saw the bag had a lot of 1943's (309 in final count).

Of note had 1909P, 1909P VDB, 1924D, 2 1936 P DDO, and the 1943 precud.

They didn't have any penny varieties for sale on the site, so that was also in my consideration.

Prices seem a bit higher now for bags.
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 Posted 08/06/2020  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sudz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have had good luck buying rolls from toomba9641 on ebay. I've found some pre-cuds, DDO's, & DDR's along with other minor errors and varieties. I am fairly certain he doesn't check for E & V's. With that said, I'm just not sure if he still does mixed rolls.
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