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1865 Two Cent Piece You Vs NGC

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 Posted 08/31/2020  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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details because the die crack is ugly and so is your type set.




My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 08/31/2020  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin beats the tar out of any two cent in my collection. What a beaut!

NGC is notoriously difficult on full red designations for this series. I've seen quite a few that I would call red that NGC has walked through as RB. They also seem to hit the brakes at MS-64, as well. IMHO, this is MS-65RB, but I fear NGC would come in at MS-64RB.

If NGC is at MS-64RB, you might want to show it around on a bourse floor and get an in-hand consensus opinion on whether to crack and resubmit to PCGS. JMHO.
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 Posted 09/01/2020  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS65 RD
Beautiful!!
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 Posted 09/01/2020  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going with MS65RD but in my mind its a 66
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 Posted 09/01/2020  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 09/01/2020  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
18 Hours Left!
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
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 Posted 09/02/2020  11:33 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couple more hours
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
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 Posted 09/02/2020  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel it's MS 65 R/B, but I think NGC gave it a MS64 RB designation.
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 Posted 09/02/2020  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time for the reveal!


I genuinely think that this was undergraded. I can see this easily being a 65 with a solid shot at 66. From all the auctions I've watched, and from TrueViews and listings on eBay it seems that TPGs generally grade 2c pieces either extremely liberally or extremely conservatively. I've seen 2c pieces with a huge gash in the field go 66+RD then see examples like this at 64. At some point I'll send it for reconsideration, but probably at no time in the near future. I can't comment on the in hand color as it won't be in hand for about another week. All in I paid $420 so a great price to boot.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
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 Posted 09/02/2020  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i agree with your assessment Grape. I think your piece got caught up in top pop grading where someone didnt want to pull the trigger that this one deserved to be up there.
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 Posted 09/02/2020  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're probably right panzaldi. It's a good candidate for upgrade
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
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 Posted 09/02/2020  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@GrapeCollects, IMHO, you might have a better shot at 65RD/65RB with PCGS. I don't think NGC will move above 64RB.
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 Posted 09/02/2020  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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@GrapeCollects, IMHO, you might have a better shot at 65RD/65RB with PCGS. I don't think NGC will move above 64RB.


I was actually just considering sending it to CAC and just taking the gold bean. I have a bunch of stuff I want to have stickered so it makes more sense just to send it along with them.


(Queue the people who endlessly crap talk CAC)
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
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 Posted 09/03/2020  11:39 am  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that's low! I really thought it HAD to be a MS66 and thought it could have been full red.
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