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What Can You Tell Me About This 1968 D With Doubling?

 
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 Posted 09/24/2020  6:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add onebakedpotato to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would like to get more sets of eyes on this Lincoln cent I found recently. I am not sure about the difference between Machine Doubling and double dies. I was hoping you could help me to know what I found here.

This may be my first significant Lincoln Memorial cent find.











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 Posted 09/24/2020  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just Machine Doubling. Notice that the devices have been reduced in thickness by the doubling and that the doubled areas are flat and shelf-like.
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 Posted 09/24/2020  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, machine doubling--with a hint of early Die Deterioration.
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 Posted 09/24/2020  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onebakedpotato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. This is what I suspected
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 Posted 09/24/2020  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@1bp, first welcome to CCF. Second, yes shelf-like doubling that reduces the width of devices is going to be MD.
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 Posted 09/24/2020  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Machine Doubling. Keep searching... you're likely to find a good bunch more of these, as Machine Doubling is very common.

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 Posted 09/26/2020  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onebakedpotato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Spence Thank you.
-Notice that the devices have been reduced in thickness by the doubling and that the doubled areas are flat and shelf-like.-

This is very helpful and succinct.

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 Posted 09/26/2020  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SensibleSal66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Machine Doubling creates this "shelf-like " appearance lower than the actual devices. Where a double die is that the "Die " is made doubled and strikes the blank coin appearing as an equal height on device and numbers >
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 Posted 09/27/2020  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note all the affected areas are in the same direction, because the machine was loose and damaged them in the same direction on that strike. On the next strike they could be in a different direction/angle/strength.

It just depends on how the machine feels on each strike. They are not doubled dies, but a normal die with machine damaging the devices after the strike. This can also happen on doubled dies, altering the DD but in a songe direction:

Note on all 4 images they are 1969-S DDO-001. Then note the yellow arrows. They point to the affected areas of Machine Doubling, on a doubled die. Again note, that all the affected areas are in one direction. The doubled dies are cause by doubling on the dies, thus the term "doubled die".
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