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 Posted 10/17/2020  10:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add swabiwal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I need suggestions from you folks regarding sending high value coins for certification to ICCS.My concern is lost or stolen mail or not received kind of things as the coins are more than 5K each.
Even if I buy insurance,I think there is a limit on insurance like 2K something.What to do in such situation.
Thanks in Advance.
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 Posted 10/18/2020  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Difficult for me to say since I have no slabbed coins and don't ever want any. But to each their own. If I was going to send anything in the mail I'd wait until all this vote by mail stuff is over. Way to much stuff happening in the mail now.
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 Posted 10/18/2020  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, not familiar with Canadian mail options, so can't help.



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 Posted 10/18/2020  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How close are you to ICCS's headquarters? If it's a day trip—even a really long day trip—it might be worth the drive. I'm glad ANACs is in Denver. If I ever get around to having a few unslabbed coins worth grading I'll just walk them in.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
even if it costs a plane ticket & you made arrangements for "same day" service I think it would be worth it vs sending multiple $5k coins by any 3rd party delivery.

you might ask a mod to move this to the Canadian section where people with more ICCS experience could chime in
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 Posted 10/24/2020  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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you might ask a mod to move this to the Canadian section where people with more ICCS experience could chime in
Done.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used to send things to ICCS through a dealer I know. He would just add my stuff to what he was taking already and he always drops off and picks up in person. He charged me for it but, since my coins were part of a bigger shipment, we got the lowest bulk rate so the savings more than made up for it.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICCS is in Toronto, and they used to attend all the larger shows in the T.O. area. With the shows closed due to the Covid, there are no shows. I would wait until this Covid mess is all over and things open up. Then try to find a major dealer in your area and give the coins to him to hand-carry to the show and hand them over. I have never sent in a high-priced coin through the mail here in Canada, because you have to put on the insurance sticker what is inside. I think that is just an invitation for someone to 5-finger it. When I send coins in the mail here (not high-cost ones) I mark down that they are planchets or discs or washers. I'm not sure you can do that with high-value insurance. I know lots of collectors who send stuff to ICCS or PCGS through the mail with no problem. If you are collecting high-grade coins, I would highly suggest that you get your own personal insurance policy up here in Canada. Hugh Wood does this for all the collectors that I know and it's very cheap and in Toronto. Here is a link for availability https://www.rcna.ca/insurance.php . Brian Cornwell of ICCS may have a suggestion as well ... he's very good with collectors and available by phone.

I just looked and saw that you were on the W Coast. There is a major coin dealer in your area. I would contact them and have them hand-carry to the next show that they will attend.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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If you are grading a large amount of coins worth that kind of money I would fly to Toronto and hand them in for grading personally and wait the couple days and fly home with them.

I have tried to mail coins to auction Houses Canada Post, Fedex, or UPS won't take them if you tell them its coins they say its against the law in Canada, yet Auction Houses do it all the time.

I have sent coins in the mail for grading to the US and Canada for grading by sending it Xpress Post with a tracking # and signature when it arrives at its distension. if going to USA I put down Tokens in Canada you only have to declare that there is nothing dangerous in the package.
It has worked good for me in the last 4 years never lost a package as of yet.
Good Luck what ever way you go
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 Posted 10/24/2020  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would use Fedex. They are highly reliable and will not leave the package unless it is signed for. I have never had an issue with them, even with cross border submissions, which is also a little tricky when it comes to how to describe the contents in an appropriate way so it will not attract inappropriate duty. I just Fedexed some coins last week to PCGS, using the harmonized code 9705, the declared value and the description "goods for return". It sailed through without duty and made it safely to PCGS.
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 Posted 10/26/2020  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
+1 for FedEx. Be sure to include the instructions, "Delivery before noon" on the manifest, as ICCS usually is only open in the mornings.
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 Posted 10/26/2020  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If using FedEx what do you tell them it is?

I tried sending coins down to one of the Bell auctions in the past through FedEx and was told it was against the Canadian laws to send coins in the mail same as Canada Post.

The only time I used FedEx to send my coins across boarder to PCGS they took them they got to Tennessee USA Customs and were held up for 2-3 weeks because of tariff charges anything with a value over $2,000.00 you pay a Pro rated fee.
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 Posted 10/26/2020  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can definitely send coins through Canada post.. This is cut from their website regarding registered mail..

Registered Mail may include:

Lettermail
documents
coins, jewellery, manufactured and non-manufactured precious metals, precious stones, cancelled or uncancelled postage stamps, banknotes, stocks, bonds, coupons or other securities negotiable by the bearer, lottery tickets or traveller's cheques (no indemnity payable on these items)
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 Posted 10/26/2020  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to have to show that to the Postal employee in the town I live in. By the looks of there statement as long as its Registered they will except coins.

I was told by Canada Post employee and FedEx employee that coins can't be mailed, I even brought up that auction houses mail me coins.

This is good to know, thank you. Theirs going to be some head butting at my Post Office next time I go send coins somewhere
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 Posted 10/26/2020  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If using FedEx what do you tell them it is?


No - I do not tell them what it is. You only need to declare if you are shipping dangerous goods, or not.

That said, I am insured for shipping coins for certification ( ICCS and PCGS) through Hugh Wood Canada Ltd. They are an international insurance broker based in Toronto, Ontario (underwritten by Lloyds of London) and they offer all risks coverage. 'All risks coverage' provides insurance for your collection both at your premises and outside of it (coin shows, auctions, coin clubs "show and tell"), when personally conveyed, or for sendings by courier company, and entrustments to third parties (like ICCS).

They also provide full coverage to all members of the RCNA at a discounted rate: https://www.rcna.ca/insurance.php

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