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1989 P Roosevelt Dime Die Chips Or Just Die Deterioration?

 
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 Posted 10/24/2020  10:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GBiscuits to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All,

two questions, same coin:

Curious on what you all think this is. I'll see this strange I'll cal them them "Crows feet" lines on dimes Obverse near the eyes on occasion, this one if fairly pronounced. Is that Die Deterioration or over polishing?

On the Reverse you can clearly see the same type of lines, but it looks like it led to some die chips or extra metal (they are not bubbles I tried depressing). Looks different than typical dime chips I find on dimes. What do you all think?

Thanks,

-GB




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 Posted 10/24/2020  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Extreme die wear.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VLDS
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 Posted 10/24/2020  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes a tired die develops these striations which are transferred on to the coins that are struck from it.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GBiscuits to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys! I found this article on Die state after reading your comments to learn more... I didn't realize how common VLDS technically is... but this does feel like an extreme example....

https://www.NGCcoin.com/boards/topi...-die-states/
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All dies that are not retired early, eventually get to look that bad.

So if a coin is showing extreme die wear (VLDS) and it is in the highest amounts created by all dies, why would we save these?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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@coop I was thinking the same thing when I read that. Changed my mind a bit on what to save unless for education on super extreme examples... and of course now I know what that is when I see it. Thanks!

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I prefer the earlier die states. When you see images of them, they always seem to smile. Most of the time when someone has an EDS coin, they always assume it is a doubled die. Many times I've seen this happen on the forums.









Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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