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Please Help Me To See If This 1901 Morgan Real Tonning

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 Posted 11/08/2020  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the added buyer's premium, that's a pretty hefty price to pay for an unslabbed proof Morgan. No way to tell whether it would grade PR63, 64, or 65 with those pictures, and as I mentioned the toning can be very deceiving in photos. Hope you get lucky and it turns out to be a nice coin.

As an aside, you should ignore the "guide" price in an auction like this and bid based on your own assessment of the coin. If you're a relatively new collector, you might want to take it slower.
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 Posted 11/08/2020  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Be very, very careful when spending big bucks on coins you are unsure about. High dollar unslabbed coins are a huge "accident waiting to happen"

I hope this turns out ok for you!

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 Posted 11/08/2020  02:56 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll give my honest opinion. I wouldn't have touched it with a 10m stick. I agree that it is a proof, but I dont think it's NT and think the surfaces have been messed with
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 Posted 11/08/2020  03:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats big money to spend on a coin not in a slab
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 Posted 11/08/2020  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics are not good enough for such an expensive coin.
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 Posted 11/08/2020  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Really waiting for real photos once the coin is in hand.
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 Posted 11/12/2020  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So why would someone AT a coin that is this valuable?

I'm on the fence on the toning. The color progression could be NT, but the thing that bothers me is how smooth the colors are over the letters and devices. NT coins tend to tone differently at different elevations. I think I see some "pull away" around the date and some of the stars, which might be an indication that it IS natural, but I'm not certain it isn't the photograph. (If you haven't found this site already, it's worth bookmarking if you're into toned coins. https://www.monstertonedmorgans.com...oned-morgans)

And the question why it isn't slabbed is a good one. A coin this valuable, especially with nice toning like that (if it's natural), should be slabbed. It can only enhance the value, since some collectors will pay a substantial premium on toned coins, especially proofs that grade as high as claimed. If it IS natural toning, you got a super deal!

I'm dying to see the in-hand pics to see if we can figure out what's what.
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 Posted 11/23/2020  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "toning" looks applied; naturally polychrome-toned BU 1901-P Morgans border on Rare
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 Posted 11/24/2020  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a proof, not a business strike. Still, I think it's likely to be either AT or juiced photos.
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 Posted 11/27/2020  04:07 am  Show Profile   Check Paradime Coins's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Paradime Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% AT, tough to tell if its proof or ms from pictures though. hope alls well with this.
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