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1909 S VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent - Counterfeit

 
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 Posted 11/20/2020  11:51 pm Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is a "glued on" mint mark, rather expertly done as it sits pretty square on with mint mark position 3. But they used a mint mark from a later year and it is the wrong style for 1909. The coin is harshly cleaned, likely to match the look of the added mint mark to the rest of the coin.

1909-S VDB Lincoln Wheat cent - counterfeit




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 Posted 11/21/2020  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IDK TB Looks real to me
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 Posted 11/21/2020  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy, that's kinda scary.
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 Posted 11/21/2020  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grafted on. Cool.
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 Posted 11/21/2020  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The real clue as to what confirms it is a fake?

The location of the center dot.
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 Posted 11/22/2020  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't soak it in acetone, the mintmark may fall off lol.
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 Posted 11/23/2020  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get that puppy on eBay!
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 Posted 11/23/2020  08:56 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Get that puppy on eBay!


NOT an appropriate suggestion.
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 Posted 11/23/2020  10:22 am  Show Profile   Check Billie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, without close examination would've fooled me.
As a rule of thumb I am inclined to buy only slabbed certified coins over a certain price point.

You can always crack'em out
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 Posted 11/23/2020  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nss-52 I don't see how putting it on ebay is wrong or a bad suggestion from Will at all. I am sure at some point he needed to be smack to the back of the head as we all have But this is not one of them times. They sell for a good price I have seen them sell due to the history/story of the coin. Some people collect counterfeits and this one is looked for by many to add to there collection. As long as TB list's the coin as what it is, It should sell.
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But others are swindled buying when they think it is a read doubled die. When they go to sell it later, they are either going to pass it on to another collector either by hood winking them, or selling them as a fake, not for anywhere near the real coin value. Some places sell them for less than $15. To me a fake coin should be stamped like this one:

That way no one will think it is real.






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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 11/23/2020  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Personally I disagree with selling counterfeits on ebay even if listed just so. Invariably someone looking to resell it as real will bid the highest and then it goes right back on the market. Someday I may sell my collection, rather than just counterstamp every one of them "COPY", but it would only be by private sale to someone I really, really trust as a collector of such things and not on the open market.
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 Posted 11/23/2020  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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nss-52 I don't see how putting it on ebay is wrong or a bad suggestion

Counterfeit coins are not allowed to be sold on eBay (per their policy), nor are replica coins (marked or unmarked).

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/...ai=lucenceai

Recommending that someone sell a counterfeit coin on eBay is really bad advice.
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 Posted 11/23/2020  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting ebay is. You can sell a coin as something it's NOT In turn RIPPING PEOPLE OFF, Fake Bank rolls Fake Double Dies Coins NOT real errors so on and so on but, you can not sell a counterfeit listed as counterfeit to someone that collects them. There are MANY coins being sold on ebay DALY that are lies but ya can't tell the truth and sell a coin to people collecting counterfeits. I am lost on that one. So ebay is ok with a lie to sell a coin but not ok with the TRUTH to sell a coin. HUM they need to work on fixing that.
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Just to clear the air. I was obviously joking (if you look at my posts at all). The reason being is people love to post horrendous eBay listings on here for others to laugh at. Sorry if I offended you nss, seems you may have been at the bad end of one of these eBay deals.
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Of course Willburton was kidding. Anyone tempted by his remark?
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