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1896-P Morgan Grading Help

 
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 Posted 03/07/2021  9:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PCM to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1896-P Morgan silver dollar. Looking for grading help aswell as to see if my picture quality has improved. I'm thinking this is high AU or better but I am no where near as skilled as some of you.


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 Posted 03/07/2021  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't see any residual luster. Has been cleaned? decades ago.
Slight, but obvious wear on the high points, especially the obverse.

AU-55.
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 Posted 03/07/2021  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PCM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If any cleaning happened it would have been prior to 1980 when my greatgrandfather passed. Thats said I'm still learning and havent developed an eye for it yet so I take yalls word for it.
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 Posted 03/07/2021  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the field beige in reality or is it an artifact of photography? If the beige stuff is for real and you don't like it, have you considered an acetone bath?
Just like sel_69l I don't see any luster either, but the coin is nice and sharp. So for me it is AU-58.
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 Posted 03/07/2021  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PCM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
im assuming and artifact of photography. the overhead light in that room fluorescent and I had one led light on either side to try and light the coin. I didnt want to mess with and color correction so these are how they came off the sd card.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well struck coin...unbelievable reverse, hair curl above ear.. no luster ,you say.....AU-58

Could have been PL in MS...IMO
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 Posted 03/08/2021  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen coins like this grade MS60. I think however it is high AU.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any signs of wear, but the lack of luster hurts it. I'd say AU-58, but it might be low MS.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the 96(P) are typically sharp and bold. this one is just a little short with the hair around the ear just a little flat and the breast not as defined as it should be for the year. overhead lighting is not good as it is washing out the surfaces and hiding any luster that may be there or it could be from a cleaning that removed it. without better photos I need to put it in the AU58 bucket
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 Posted 03/08/2021  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Has it been cleaned?

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 Posted 03/08/2021  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PCM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yea I need to figure out the white balance on the camera. I let it auto wb and it didnt work out. in person the coin looks better. I just cant seem to get the lighting or the coin positioning right.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First,

I have a hunch about the surface on the coin. I played with your photos a bit by reducing lighting, sharpening contrast, and adjusting color to offset some of the effects of fluorescent lighting. I see some granular coating on the surface, particularly in the fields and flat surfaces on the devices. For example, notice the areas around the stars.

Two questions:
Was this coin stored in a vinyl flip or vinyl sheet?
Do you live in a warm and humid area?

This could be a reaction to PVC.

In terms of the technical grade, there is evidence of light circulation. It's in the mid- to high-AU range (AU-55 to AU-58). If an acetone bath doesn't remove the surface discoloration, the coin likely would be AU Details.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ill say AU-58
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 Posted 03/08/2021  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PCM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Two questions:
Was this coin stored in a vinyl flip or vinyl sheet?
Do you live in a warm and humid area?


The coins have been stored in a cardboard coin book with a 1950's copy write date.
I live in VA so humid summers and dry winters.
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 Posted 03/14/2021  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-55 straight grade.
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