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1949 Possible Clipped Planchet

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 Posted 04/03/2021  4:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Echo1711 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This group is so incredibly helpful. Thank you. How about this one? Is this a CP or just post mint damage?

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 Posted 04/03/2021  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@echo, I know that it will be hard to get the focus right, but can you please add a pic of the region of interest on the edge? Thx.
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 Posted 04/03/2021  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I lean toward damage at first glance. Can you show us a straight-on close up of the edge in that area?



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 Posted 04/03/2021  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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waiting on more photos.
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 Posted 04/03/2021  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Echo1711 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is this?
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 Posted 04/03/2021  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is good, but what we really need is to see that flat edge 90 degrees from the view you are showing us. Thx.
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 Posted 04/03/2021  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can see from that last photo (excellent by the way) it is PMD .
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 Posted 04/03/2021  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think most probably it is a straight-edge clipped planchet, the "end of the line" so to speak. It's too large for the Blakesley Effect, and it's easy to see that the planchet went through the upsetting mill as-is...
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 Posted 04/03/2021  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I have to disagree. It is a straight clip. What tells me that?
1. Note the reverse, you can see the Blakesley affect there. (Not always seen on both sides of the coin. during the setup process on edge can rise only making the one side showing the affect)
2. Also the weakness of the right wheat stems.
3. The weakness on 'WE' on the obverse.
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 Posted 04/03/2021  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On reflection, I think Dr. coop is right.
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 Posted 04/03/2021  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Echo1711 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. Now I am fascinated. Here is a picture or the edge as requested. Is there any added value to this coin?
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 Posted 04/03/2021  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Add this to the previous list:
5. Note the edge of the coin, it looks like the edge of the stock material. (No saw marks)
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 Posted 04/03/2021  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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any added value to this

Maybe slightly, but the first step would be to convince them it's a mint error clip, which might be difficult.

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 Posted 04/04/2021  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It won't be a difficult pursuit: it did pass through the Upsetting Mill with the straight edge; anything else just adds to it
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 Posted 04/04/2021  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the straight clip crowd.
Coop and/or Coinfrog, is the strike weakness near the clip, namely in WE and the rims, a good indicator of a legitimate error? It seems to me that having the void between the dies would make it harder for metal to flow into the devices in those areas.
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 Posted 04/04/2021  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a Straight-Edge clipped Large Cent. The two edgebumps at the bottom are the result of getting caught in the upsetting mill

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