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1954 S Lincoln Wheat Cent RPM? S Is Touching The 9

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Is this a rpm and I remember seeing on ebay and on here that anacs graded a coin as touching the mm .is that a rare thing or something.

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touching the mm


I remember from Mr. Coppercoins that he said before the 80s? (please correct me!) mint marks were everywhere, so this is not exactly rare.
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Mint marks can be all over the place. No added premium except to a collector with interest....like me, LOL. I'm looking for a 54S touching in BU to go along with my 55S.

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I do like how the top right of the S is "reaching out" to the 9. Cool pics!
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I don't see a repunched mintmark here. It is also not uncommon for the mintmark to be very close to the date.
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I don't set the close to devices ones aside. I look for the varieties instead.

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This is considered an error the mint mark should not be touching the date. I don;t think it's considered a misplaced mint mark though, but not a normal placement for the MM these can bring a nice premium

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I don't see the MM anywhere close to touching the 9, did I get different pics. here or what? I really don't think it's an error, probably a variety though.
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It's neither an error nor a variety, nor is it worth a premium value. The mintmark placement is in a position that would be acceptable by mint standards.
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sorry rock dude it's the 5 not the 9
thanks for the info everbody
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do you crop the picture on the camera first or after you uploaded it to the computer? thank you
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no I take it with a dino lite microscope
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Mintmarks that are almost touching the numbers in date are not all that uncommon.

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According to Alan Herbert this would be considered a "Displaced Mintmark" if you consider the date to be a design element.

In section II-C-16 of his book Price Guide to Mint Errors: He describes a displaced mintmark as "A mintmark letter""which was cut, punched, or hubbed into the die far enough out of the normal position so that it is touching some other part of the design on the struck coin."

I am just not sure if he included the date as "some other part of the design."

In the one example he showed a D/D repunched mintmark on a five cent piece where the first D was touching the E in FIVE. So perhaps this is a displaced mintmark.

John Booth

Oh and he gives this a rarity level of 4-5 with and added value of $5 - $10.
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Okay, then. I will come up with a hundred of them and prepare them to send off to the first offer over $250 postpaid. That's half of their published value, right? They are common enough I should be able to do it with current supplies in less than a week. Any takers?
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I have to agree with jdbooth I also read that these are considered a displaced MM and do fetch a premium. would say its an error. I have searched many cent rolls maybe found two in hundreds of Wheat cent rolls. I would think the date is another part of the design element seperate entity from the other elements such as the MM.

HERE'S THE CONECA DEFINITION FOR DISPLACED mm (THE COIN THAT WAS STRUCK FROM A DIE IN WHICH THE MINT MARK WAS POSITION FAR ENOUGH OUT OF PLACE TO BE TOUCHING A DESIGN ELEMENT.)

COPPERCOINS I'm PRETTY SURE THEY WOULD MAYBE SELL FOR A FEW BUCKS ON ebay

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