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Coin Found On Beach, Counterfeit Or Real?

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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harrisiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Anyone know what this is? Found it with my metal detector in the wet sand on Texas coast. Back side is not really recognizable and don't want to clean until I have more information. If there is a chance it is real please suggest simple cleaning method. It is NOT magnetic. Any help greatly appreciated!





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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:27 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly a cob 8 reales of some sort, but I have very limited knowledge in this area. My guess is it would be genuine based on the appearance.

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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quite the find. I would leave it just as found.
looks genuine to me.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:40 am  Show Profile   Check Singer's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Singer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me. I agree with keeping it as is. Great find!
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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's made of lead, it may be a seal of some sort. The fabric is not that of a coin imo. What do you see in the angles of the cross? I wouldn't try to clean it.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Few more in natural lighting.


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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure does look old...but the crumbly edge suggests a potmetal counterfeit contemporary with the time of usage of that and similar cob coins
an old fake....but keep looking the real ones are out there!
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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So its most likely fake...any way to put this to bed and know for sure?
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What is it made of?
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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure, other than it is non magnetic. Has same encrustation on edges that is often found on pennies that I find. However, I do find some older 925 silver jewelry in the area with the same encrustation too. I will try and get a weight. Sick joke on a metal detectorist finding this on the beach. I guess kids could have been playing with it a long time ago and the recent rough weather and high tides lowered the beach just enough for me to find it.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect it's a lead bale (bag) seal from the Spanish colonial period, used to seal goods for shipping. Spanish would seem most likely based on the Texas coast find spot but not the only possibility. [edited]
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Doesn't appear to have the weight of lead...makes slight "dinging" sound when dropped on glass table. Conductivity reading on my metal detector is more consistent with copper/zinc, heavier gold, or light silver. I know that doesn't tell anyone much but that is the best I can do.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@harris, when you say you found it on a beach, might this beach have been either on the gulf coast of Texas or Florida? I seem to remember another thread where someone found a similar piece in that geographic range.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrisiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Spence Found it metal detecting on beach on North Padre Island, Texas, covered in about 8" of sand.
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I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but it's not a genuine coin, and not very old. What we have here is some synthetic "pirate treasure". It's a replica "piece of eight" that someone has buried on the beach (presumably as part of a "find the pirate treasure" game) and nobody found this one - until the OP came along with a metal detector, probably several years later.

Check out the pics of the coin in this old thread, which was found on a beach in the Bahamas. It's exactly the same shape, and the cross (what can be seen of it) has exactly the same dints and flaws in it. Cob coins don't have exactly the same shape, dints and flaws as each other.

Your coin is badly corroded because it's not made of silver, but some base-metal (pewter or some such) that was plated. You can see the plating peeling off on the edge shot.
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