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 Posted 08/12/2021  3:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eurocoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Many of us numismatist are collectors as well. But we don't have to. What do you think, can we get the excitement without owning any coins? Like just enjoying the quality pics available of quality coins on internet.

Once I had collection of over 3500 type coins but decided to downsize it. At the moment I'm not sure how down I would go. Probably not to zero though. I still have "too much", over 3000 coins. Probably a few type sets in nice albums and couple of hundred silver commems would be nice amount to have. I still enjoy to look nice coin designs and learn about numismatics, but collecting doesn't give me the passion anymore so much.
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 Posted 08/12/2021  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suppose I could be happy just hanging around CCF, but having the coins does fuel the excitement.
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 Posted 08/12/2021  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We had a very active member in our local coin club who went blind the last 10 or 15 years of his life but he still had fun when it came to being with coin collectors and sharing his knowledge on collecting.
It must have been quite an experience for him. He was a very nice man.
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 Posted 08/12/2021  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Check daltonista's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Like attorneys without clients, or physicians without patients, you could be a faculty member here on CCF...an information resource and voice of experience for all the rest of us!

The pay's not so hot, though...


I never pay too much for my tokens...but every now and then I may buy one a little too soon.

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 Posted 08/12/2021  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A collector hired by the Bank of Canada money museum said that he had to give up collecting due to conflict of interest.

So that is an example of a numismatist who no longer collects.
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 Posted 08/12/2021  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've thought of becoming a virtual collector. Collecting images of coins and arranging these together on a page as a series. Upgrading the images when I find a better one.
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 Posted 08/12/2021  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This approach is certainly easier on one's wallet

It's a really interesting question, and especially pertinent in the often-virtually-conducted-world we have been introduced to in the last 18 months.

I am guessing that there exist art historians who have never owned a piece of art from the era which they have studied. Why not coins?
Certainly there are areas of numismatics where I don't possess a coin, but where I have responded to a question on CCF by using the internet to learn and then answer (there are names for people like this ...some more polite than others ).
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 Posted 08/12/2021  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know of a World recognized professional numismatic auctioneer, who no longer has a collection. He sold his collection on the London Auction market about 35 years ago, and used the capital to start his business.

Nevertheless, almost all of his staff still actively collect. The only staff members who don't, are some of the office support staff.
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 Posted 08/13/2021  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Merriam-Webster says numismatics is "the study or collection of coins, etc." (my italics)

So apparently the answer is yes, you can study coins without collecting them, and still be a proud numismatist.
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 Posted 08/13/2021  10:29 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have an extensive collection of coin images, particularly counterfeits.
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 Posted 08/14/2021  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 08/15/2021  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly a great way to save money in this hobby. Just save photos of the coins.
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 Posted 08/16/2021  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A digital collection is much cheaper, especially with relative lower costs on storage devices.
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 Posted 08/16/2021  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dant5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The arousal centers that flare with the in person, in hand held art that coins are, I guess, can still flare to a degree by the mere virtual representation of it... "Coin Porn"... and, you should be ashamed!

As a "Coin Porn" collector, do you have to wear white cotton gloves to increase the sensation of the virtual stimulation?

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 Posted 08/16/2021  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Numismatist" is not a synonym for "coin collector", and never has been, even before the Internet age, even though many of us treat it so. I'm a member of several "numismatic societies", and when people ask me "what is numismatics", I just say "coin collecting" beause it's the simplest thing to say - even though I know it's not technically true.

A "coin collector" collects coins - it's right there on the label. They might, or might not, actually know something about the coins they collect, but knowledge is not necessary to just be a "coin collector".

A "numismatist" is, by definition, a student of coins. Knowledge about the coins is everything. They might, or might not, actually own any coins, but possession is not necessary to just be a "numismatist".

Now, many of us are, of course, both "coin collectors" and "numismatists", we both collect, and want to learn as much as possible about the things we collect. But it's entirely possible to be a "true numismatist" without owning a single coin. Indeed, many professional numismatists in the world's museums and universities dislike and disapprove of "coin collecting" as a hobby, especially for ancient and mediaeval coins. "Coin collectors" are seen as part of the problem, the source of the demand which fuels grave-robbing and the looting of archaeological sites.
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 Posted 08/17/2021  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even non-collecting numismatists surely must like/want to handle coins.
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