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Possible 1918 Over 17-S? Would Like Opinion.

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 Posted 08/27/2021  2:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dzlxd7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message





I would like an opinion as to whether one of these 1918-s SLQ's is actually the key date. It should be obvious from the photo which one I'm looking for the opinion on. Let me know what you think I should do. I have never sent a coin off to be graded in my life so I am unsure of the process so advice on the best way to do that would be welcomed.

Thanks for looking.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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 Posted 08/27/2021  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not experienced with these but that second one looks good to me. Mintmark position and the "M" die clash on the lower obverse seem to match what I see on PCGS graded examples I can find online.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Tanman.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one sure looks good to me. Very nice, a rare variety. I would send it in to a TPG to get it authenticated.

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 Posted 08/27/2021  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm also not great with this series, but it looks good to me as well. See what others say, but I'd say it's worth sending in for authentication. How did you come across this one? Do you have a reverse pic?

ANACS is the cheapest route that does not require a membership, but holds the least amount of return value when the time comes to sell. The other two ( NGC AND PCGS) require a membership. You can call your local coin shop and see if they are willing to submit it for you. Another option is piggybacking on another reliable CCF members membership (not saying we're not ALL reliable).



Edit: Just to be safe. Please do not try to clean or do anything to enhance the date on this one! There's enough meat in the bones to properly identify (just not by me ). Looks to be a nice original example.

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 Posted 08/27/2021  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are reasonably confident it is, send it in to a TPG.
If it is, you won't get much for it unless it's been authenticated.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send it!
Come back and let us know how it did.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First,

The date looks correct. The mm style is correct. And I think I can make out one of the two diagnostic die cracks for Stage B (MDS) ("RUST" of TRUST). The other die crack (first right star to the rim) could be there, but that part of the photo isn't clear enough to be sure.

It looks like a very real possibility. We're pulling for you! Please let us know how it turns out.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzlxd7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all the responses. I came across this coin by chance in a coin shop about 10 years ago for $15. I thought it was a good deal for a pre-1925 SLQ. It wasn't until I got it home and compared it to others that I thought it might be. I took it to another shop a year or two after and he said he didn't think it was an 18 over 17. It's been bothering me and I stumbled across your forum and thought I would ask as I am not an expert in the indications or varieties. I will post more pics, including the reverse. I will look into a third party grader and see if I can find a PCGS or NGC member near me. I live in Bucks County, PA.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzlxd7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here are some more pics. Thoughts and opinions are welcome.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would find a coin show where ANACS has a booth and submit it directly to them. To me it wouldn't matter whose slab it's in as long as it's authenticated, and I'm no expert but yours certainly seems to be authentic. I'm sure you realize it's a $2500 coin in that condition.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzlxd7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks kbbpll. I didn't realize that the coin could be worth that much, but thank you. I will look for a coin show near me. Again, thank you for the advice.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  03:08 am  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep us updated with the story! I enjoy reading about rare finds and discoveries.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I based that estimate from two sales on Heritage last year for F12 and F15 coins, both sold for $2520. You might find other sales on Great Collections, ebay, Stacks. Of course that includes 20% buyers premium and you'd be out sellers fees but it's a ballpark. Numismedia has F12 at $3030. I'm not saying it would get F12, I'm no expert, but yours seems comparable to others with that grade.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the diagnostic die cracks. Note that the crack through "RUST" of TRUST is not yet bold, and the crack from the first right star to the rim is not yet complete. Since these are middle die state markers, the cracks on this coin would suggest that it is an early middle die state strike.

It's possible to identify dateless coins as 1918-S/1917-S DDOs solely by these die cracks. That market probably would be comparable to the dateless 1916 DDO Buffs, identified by the doubled feathers.


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