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1833 50c Capped Bust Half Dollar

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Purchased this from a fellow CCF member. Thoughts? Thanks!

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 Posted 12/06/2021  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic luster, I'd say MS-64, O-114. Great coin!
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Normally don't see luster on these, they have mostly long since completely patinated over.

Patination is really a sort of (often attractive) mild surface corrosion.
IMO, although others may disagree, coins of this vintage with luster are in superior condition, are more attractive and are scarcer than their well patinated equivalents. It is for these reasons that I prefer coins with as much luster as possible.

Tiny scratch behind eagle's neck doesn't help, but despite that,
MS-64, and among the best of Capped Bust Halves I have seen, even in pictures.
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Decent strike, with a later die state. Common date and die pairing. I don't find this coin super attractive, but I know I will be in the minority with that. Looks like it had an old dip and re-tone, with no luster remaining on the cheek and high points on obverse and reverse. AU-58. No major distractions or contact marks, and I particularly like the reverse.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  07:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with previous post.
Old dip.
58ish.
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The luster doesn't look genuine to me, but I could only be sure with the coin in front of me.

If I'm wrong about that, then MS-64. The features are in excellent shape. If it's been cleaned, Unc Details.
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Almost looks chrome plated.
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Looks like original luster to me. I don't see any sign that it's been dipped.
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The scuffs in the fields could be seen as minimal circulation and might get it AU58; if not MS64. But I'm just chiming in.
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I'll split the difference and say MS-63. Looks original to me.
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I don't particularly care for this one.

I don't like the cheek area, looks like it was dipped or polished.
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Unless the history of the coin storage is known, there is no way to tell that this example has or has not been dipped, but if one was to call out every coin that looks like this example as dipped, you would be correct most of the time. The coin is a nice collectable example with a little toning. A case can be made for a grade of AU58 with some circulation rub on the eagle's head, bust area, cheek, neck and freedom cap.
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This is my PCGS AU-58. I love it but Numismatic student's coin looks a lot smoother and nicer.

I'd say MS-63. Lovely coin!
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 Posted 12/07/2021  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just find it hard to believe that this coin could have survived nearly 190 years with this kind of mint bloom. Dipped? Definitely. More than once? Perhaps. Market acceptable? Probably. Unnatural looking? Definitely.
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with frog. Regardless, nice example, nice strike. Old dip, retoned, I'd call it MS63.
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i can see it at MS64
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