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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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all appear to be fake
I've been collecting for a couple years... Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set | Coffee, Corvettes, Coins & the CCF what could be better? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hmm, interesting, they all have that dull grey look to them, so they have that suspicious look to them  . See if you can determine any magnetism? |
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I didn't have my magnet ... It is literally in my other pants ... The 83 looks to have a casting mark near the nose... The ping test convinced me ... It didn't register a single frequency on the app and I've used the app at loud crowded Markets and authentic coins have
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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The overall bubbliness of the hair too ... And ... Even adjusting for the shoddiness of my tape measurer - they were at least 1 mm small...
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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If they are undersize, then they are counterfeit.
They should be 38.1 mm. The
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Looking at them closer... And comparing to fakes... They look like older fakes... One collector bought similar in the 70s... I will take the scale to the shop tomorrow... Curious about these though because I have seen a number of fake Morgans and these looked less obvious. Of course, I could be wrong
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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For those saying fake, what are you seeing that makes you say this (besides the size mentioned by the OP)?
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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That's what I want to know too ... The hair and dates look bubbly and I don't think I can 100% depend on my tape measure and there was music so the ping may not have worked... But I didn't get the best feel from them... I also went wildly unprepared... No scale, magnet etc.
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The coins have the toning look of Chinese fakes. The hair details are not sharp. The date on the 1879 has a bubble look. I would like to see photos of the reverse. Put me in the counterfeit camp.
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Here are two others at an affiliated shop... This particular shop has had a lot of fake coins. I go in assuming most of what they have is fake... I posted a few other threads with fakes. Once these didn't pass the ping app and I wasn't getting exactly 38.1 I didn't think much about them... But they are the best fakes I've seen although I haven't seen many fakes...   |
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A lot of fakes are made in China. It's wise to have a micrometer, coin scale, ping tester, magnet etc. But I think it's even more important who you buy from. You say these Morgans are from shops, are they pawn shops? I only buy from well established coin stores in my city and online. My LCS has an analyzer that verifies what they sell. He has a bowl full of fake coins people brought in to sell and they had been duped. He keeps them to show people. I don't buy coins on Facebook, AliExpress, Craigslist, etc. I do buy on ebay from reputable coin sellers I trust. Edited by livingwater
03/10/2022 10:09 pm
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That's the problem ....I live in Rome and Morgans sell at a stupid high premium here (ie €60). Rome, unknown to many, has a very rich used market culture... I buy and sell all the time and started coin collecting after finding some authentic coins at reasonable prices... We gotta play the hand we're delt ....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Another idea to use is see if any of these match up with known vams from vamworld.com, die cracks also help, probably other methods as others have said.
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Hard to judge these Morgans from your photographs, but three things stand out to me. First, the dates have that "baloonish" look of most counterfeits/copies I've seen. Second, the toning doesn't look natural. Third, I find it hard to believe that none of them have much in the way of contact marks.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Posted 03/10/2022 11:31 am
