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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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You guys say a lot in your messages that you keep your coins in 2x2. But here I probably just because of ignorance until the end I can't understand what you are specifically talking about when mentioning "2x2". I can assume two options: 1)  2)  I chose the first option for myself. It is universal, you don't have to buy every time and think about what sizes of the case you have and which ones you need to buy. And the most important question. Where do you keep this pile ? Edited by Slerk 06/12/2022 11:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Russian Federation
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This is an example of my storage method. I keep only part of my collection like this. I made the label myself. I bought hard paper and made a template. It is universal (almost). 
Edited by Slerk 06/12/2022 12:07 pm
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New Member
United States
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I keep them in the plastic ones also. In binder pages. For the same reason,universal sizing. Also, ability to remove,hold,photograph. And best of all, no hideous staples, can't stand staples. Although the paper self stick ones do look good together in a binder sheet. And everything in binder pages, even slabs. I like to flip through a binder nearly daily.
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@slerk, I don't want to speak for others, but I mean option #2 when I say 2x2.
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When you use the plastic ones especially when it contacts the coin, make very sure it is not PVC or you will ruin the coin over time. For storage for me I use 3 different ways 1. OGP 2. Dansco albums 3. 2x2 for low value coins.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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@slerk: Your option #1 is a coin flip. Your option #2 is a 2x2. Many collectors use these terms interchangeably - but they are mistaken when doing so.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I do not use plastic flips ; I use 2x2 cardboard holders , then they go either into plastic sheets ( 25 2x2's per sheet ) into a looseleaf binder ; or they go into 2x2 boxes specially made for the cardboard holders . If you go this route make sure the staples are flatten as to not damage other coins next to them . 
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The thing we always mean when we say "2x2" is the second one, the cardboard folder. They come in self-adhesive and stapled varieties; both varieties have their fans.
The 2x2-sized plastic folder is called a "flip".
For me personally, I use both. I use the cardboard 2x2s (and usually the self-adhesive type) for most of my modern coins. For coins that are heavily worn, are unusually thick, or for ancient and mediaeval coins, I use the flips. But I generally keep the coins in whatever holder the dealer sold them to me in; I only re-holder them if I need (for example) to take a coin out of a 2x2 to take a photograph of it, or if the dealer's holder is old, damaged, dirty, mouldy or covered in incorrect information.
I then house both the flips and the 2x2s in coin albums. The "coin albums" I use are actually albums intended for old photographic slides, because a photographic slide is also 2x2-sized, and the plastics they use for slide album pages tend to be higher quality, as a low-quality plastic will readily destroy a photographic slide.
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Pillar of the Community
 Russian Federation
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I thought that in America all coin collectors and dealers keep coins in flip. Quote: When you use the plastic ones especially when it contacts the coin, make very sure it is not PVC or you will ruin the coin over time. For storage for me I use 3 different ways 1. OGP 2. Dansco albums 3. 2x2 for low value coins. What is OGP? PVC is one of the reasons for my choice of "Flip" (if I used this term correctly, it applies to method 1). I'm buying a flip from a German company. They are very good and their plastic is hard (this indicates the absence of PVC). Quote: I use the cardboard 2x2s (and usually the self-adhesive type) for most of my modern coins. As far as I know, the cardboard 2x2 is intended for temporary storage of coins (1-2 years, maybe 3, but this is the maximum period). I'm worried about this window (it's plastic and I think it reacts with metal + air). I know that many collectors and dealers store in 2x2 (cardboard). For them, this is the cheapest way to store and they have a huge plus. There is a place for information. Price, country, denomination, year, etc. Quote: For coins that are heavily worn, are unusually thick, or for ancient and mediaeval coins, I use the flips. Perhaps flip costs you a couple of cents and therefore for you it is the cheapest way of storage and you store coins there with low cost. Do you buy such sheets and put your 2x2 cardboard there ? 
Edited by Slerk 06/13/2022 02:04 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It all depends on which coins.
I store mine in a variety of ways.
Dansco Albums
Whitman Albums
Cardboard 2x2's in Binders
I also have lower end or duplicates in cardboard 2x2's in 2x2 elongated boxes
I have a variety in Mylar flips and Cardboard 2x2's because either will suffice, it's preference
Some coins are just loose
p.s. I store some in capsules and tubes as well
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Edited by NumismaticsFTW 06/13/2022 02:09 am
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Quote: What is OGP? "Original Government Packaging", like for mint sets, proof coins etc. The plastic case and/or the box the coins were shipped in from the Mint. Quote: They are very good and their plastic is hard (this indicates the absence of PVC). Technically, "hard" or rigid plastic indicates the absence of plasticizers that make the plastic soft. For PVC it is the plasticizers, rather than the PVC itself, that causes the damage over time. Nevertheless, it remains true that, as a general rule, "hard plastic = good, soft plastic = bad". Quote: As far as I know, the cardboard 2x2 is intended for temporary storage of coins (1-2 years, maybe 3, but this is the maximum period). Cardboard 2x2s are perfectly fine for long-term storage. How "good" they are depends entirely on the manufacturer. It certainly is possible to buy chean'n'nasty 2x2s that are either made of PVC or are made of something else that's laced with plasticizer. All of the ones I've been using for the last 20+ years are fine. Quote: Perhaps flip costs you a couple of cents and therefore for you it is the cheapest way of storage and you store coins there with low cost. No coin dealer I've ever found in Australia sells the flips. The flips I buy are imported direct from FORVM, an ancients dealer in America, so they are not my cheapest option, which is why I only use them for coins that warrant it. By which I mean, ancient coins (which are usually too thick and awkwardly-shaped to fit into a 2x2 easily), worn coins (which often become unreadable if sealed up inside a 2x2), and mediaeval coins (which often need to be examined in hand up close, to read the legends, determine varieties and types, etc). Quote: Do you buy such sheets and put your 2x2 cardboard there ? The sheets I buy hold 20 coins (5 rows of 4). You can see examples on the Print File website. There used to be a local supplier for these, but with the demise of photography supplies shops as everybody went digital, I have to import these from America as well. A pack of 100 pages usually lasts me several years. I do find it interesting that that website, even though the company aims itself at phographers, also includes pictures of coins in 2x2s in their pages. They have finally realised that coin collectors make up a significant minority of their customer base.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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Sorry I forgot you're from Australia) I recently purchased a flip of a slightly different format. The old seller raised the price a lot + I needed a flip of my large coins such as the 1969 Fiji Dollar, the Ike dollar, etc. Quote: The sheets I buy hold 20 coins (5 rows of 4). I usually saved on such sheets. Considering that the main thing is 2x2 cardboard. leuchtturm- This is a German company that I usually buy. Many collectors love it here in Russia and possibly throughout Europe. I have a question for you. When you buy 2x2 cardboard, what sizes do you purchase for yourself? For me, this is the main problem. I can buy a coin, but I won't have the right size for it and will have to spend extra money to buy 2x2 + shipping.
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Pillar of the Community
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Do you use albums to store coins ? Just sheets for storage ? Question to all Forum participants.
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Pillar of the Community
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I use 2x2 cardboard with mylar windows. The same brand, leuchtturm. I house them in sheets which hold 20 2x2s the same as Sap uses and they go into polypropylene 3 ring binders. ( hoping someone will advise me if polypropylene is a good choice) As far as what sizes I buy, I get them to suit the coins. My feeling is that a small coin in a big 2x2 window will easily drift off-centre and could rotate around inside. A snug fitting coin is trapped inside and stays centered.Also less air inside in contact with the coin, to reduce excess oxydisation over time.
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Quote: I have a question for you. When you buy 2x2 cardboard, what sizes do you purchase for yourself? For me, this is the main problem. I can buy a coin, but I won't have the right size for it and will have to spend extra money to buy 2x2 + shipping. I buy all of them. Folks who collect just one series (like "American coins" or "euro coins"), can afford to just get the coin sizes relevant for that series. But as I collect everything, I need all the sizes. I keep them in a drawer next to the computer where I sort and catalogue all recently-acquired coins. When I have a coin that I think needs to go in a 2x2, I just open the drawer and pick out one that fits best. Quote: I house them in sheets which hold 20 2x2s the same as Sap uses and they go into polypropylene 3 ring binders. ( hoping someone will advise me if polypropylene is a good choice) Anything that isn't actively outgassing corrosive substances is fine. But rigid plastic boxes are the best, simply because you can stack them up on top of each other and they don't "squeeze" the albums at the bottom of the pile. "Squeezing" a page full of 2x2s, especially if either the 2x2 film or the album page is poor-quality plastic, can result in solvent transfer of plasticizer between the album page and the film - which is what causes the films to turn "sticky" and hard to remove from the pages. To demonstrate what I mean, let's go back to the Print File website I linked to earlier, and check out the albums that I buy in bulk: Safe-T-Binders. They're rigid polypropylene; they come in ringed and ringless versions (I buy the ringed ones) and they clip shut for transportation if you need to carry them around the place. You can put them on a bookshelf ring-side-up so you don't have to worry about the pages sagging inside the album. Finally, they're more or less a loosely-sealed box, which helps reduce atmospheric exposure. It's not airtight, but it's better than an open binder. The main drawback with them is the clips are just plastic, so tend to break after prolonged use.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The main thing here is holder your nice coins and keep them away from extreme heat and cold . Also keeping coins in a high humidity environment will kill your prize examples . Try to , store your holders with desiccant packs . Do this with your singles , your albums and any other way you choose to keep your coins . I use a bunch of them in my cardboard 2x2 holder boxes . BTW my albums are in zip lock bags filled with desiccant packs . Keep your prize collection as safe and sound as possible . 
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