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Is This Kennedy Half Dollar Worth Getting Graded? (1964)

 
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 Posted 01/09/2023  9:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hikerguy62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This half dollar has a really nice shine to it. I see these selling for over $1000 (ungraded) on eBay, and much more graded. Just from the pics, can anyone say yes or no to getting this coin graded?

And why do some of the eBay listings say "accented hair"? What's that all about?

*** Edited by Staff to Add Year to Title. It's very important to have in the title. ***





Thanks,

Andy
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 Posted 01/09/2023  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Accented Hair design was used for striking proofs and not circulation coins, which were among the very first coins struck bearing the new design. Upon seeing the early proof strikes, Kennedy requested that the hair detail be softened so the strands of hair appeared less prominent. The request was approved by U.S. Mint officials, and all proofs struck after that time saw the softer hair detail, resulting in the Accented Hair design becoming a one-year-only type. There are no firm numbers on exactly how many 1964 Accented Hair Proof Kennedy half dollars were struck, but estimates suggest only between 50,000 to 100,000, more or less, rolled off the presses. That means the Accented Hair design accounts for far less than 5% of the entire proof mintage run of 3,950,762 examples. Values for this scarce type range from about $50 to $75 for a typical example in the range of PR63 to PR65. However, superb examples graded PR68 or higher can easily fetch $350 or more. One of the highest prices ever achieved by this coveted Kennedy half dollar rarity was realized at a September 2017 Heritage Auctions event, when a gorgeous example graded PR68DCAM crossed the block for a sensational $17,400. There are also doubled dies found on these. In general condition plays also an important part of whether something is average or high value. Also listings on ebay are only listed prices rather than sold prices and may never sell at that listed price so you should check sold listings on the left side to see only those which have sold.

Yours is not the accented hair. The most obvious diagnostic of the Accented Hair design is the heavy hair stranding over Kennedy's ear on the center of the obverse. However, another way to attribute this variety is to look for a missing detail in the lettering of "LIBERTY." The letter "I" of "LIBERTY" on the Accented Hair coin will be missing the majority of the lower left serif, which appears in full on other iterations of the Kennedy half dollar. Also absent is the horizontal serif of the letter "G" from Frank Gasparro's "FG" initials seen on the reverse.

You can use a price guide to casually gauge what a graded coin might be worth if you paid grading fees and it met a certain grade https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...-dollars/44/ or https://m.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices.htm


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Upon seeing the early proof strikes, Kennedy requested that the hair detail be softened so the strands of hair...

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I see these selling for over $1000 (ungraded) on eBay

I certainly hope you meant to say is that you saw them LISTED for over $1000. I just took a look and found they are selling from $10 to $25 raw and $20 to $50 slabbed.

I did see ONE PF69 Kennedy sell for over $100, but that was a rarity.

The 'accented hair' variety is only on proof 1964 Kennedy's. Even those should be cheaper than $100.

Added:Oops, took me too long to post, the hair data was listed already. Also, DBM, he meant MRS Kennedy.
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 Posted 01/09/2023  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Upon seeing the early proof strikes, Kennedy requested that the hair detail be softened so the strands of hair...

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Perhaps they went to see Oda Mae Brown from the old movie Ghost Actually it was Jacqueline Kennedy who asked the mint to soften the hairlines after seeing the earlier version https://coinweek.com/modern-coins/t...-and-values/

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@datadragon, thanks for all that info. Very detailed.

@atticguy - I stand corrected. I went back and looked at past sales on eBay's terapeak and only saw one ungraded selling above $1000. The others were graded. But several ungraded ones were selling for several hundred dollars.
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 Posted 01/10/2023  05:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Your coin is a common low MS grade coin - absolutely not worth the $50 or so for a TPG to grade and encapsulate.

eBay seller might list these for over $100 - but check sold listings and see if they are actually selling.
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@nickelsearcher,

I'd agree with you except terapeak is eBay's website that shows historical past sales, and the ones I saw were within the past two years. I know it's crazy, but if people want to spend that kind of money, I'll gladly let them lol
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I'd agree with you except terapeak is eBay's website that shows historical past sales, and the ones I saw were within the past two years. I know it's crazy, but if people want to spend that kind of money, I'll gladly let them lol


Unlike a lot of products sold on ebay, with coins there are a number of variations at times - in this case such as having the accented hair or not, proof or business strike, graded or raw, being cameo or deep cameo, having some kind of variety or error etc so you just have to double check such as the listing text itself and title to see what the listing price was actually paid for as it may or may not be the same as what you are trying to set a price on. Others are just saying that the typical price even up to a decent mid level graded version should be valued under $50 from several sources so it may be something different when its listed price is higher and not just a bidiot (yes the bidiots may sometimes also pay more for something occasionally). Terapeak for others is an enhanced research tool for sold listings that goes farther than for free clicking on sold listings on the left to filter the current sold items from the listed. I use it often to id what to sell things for and more often to see what competitors are selling and at what price.


See about 2:15 in

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 Posted 01/11/2023  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with others, not worth getting graded. Welcome to the Community.
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 Posted 01/12/2023  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58 straight grade. Not slab worthy.
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Definitely save your money.
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 Posted 01/13/2023  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the others on this. If you KNEW that it would come back as a PR70, (which it won't) then a slight maybe on having it graded. Kennedy's aren't among the strongest collectible coins. I would hold onto it and sell when/if Silver takes a big jump. The '64's are pretty coins and I have those in our collection too from 1964 - 2002 (AU-PR). I gave up collecting them in the early 2002 due to purchasing higher value coins. You could always just sell it now or trade for another coin that you enjoy!
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 Posted 01/19/2023  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hikerguy62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the advice. I won't waste my money then sending it to be graded.

Thanks,

Andy
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