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1892 P Morgan Dollar With Multiple Defects

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 Posted 03/21/2023  4:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
**** edited photos

So the only other low mintage Morgan I identified is this 1892 p. I'm a bit surprised the date doesn't have more interest. Of course, I am only basing this on ebay sold comps.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!




Going through my two and a half tubes of non 1921 Morgans has made me more interested in the 1878 s I posted on another thread. The coin has some mirror like fields.. . But I'll save that for that thread...








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 Posted 03/21/2023  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel like the "9" in the date should be more closed, per https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin/1892-1/7212

However, your images are too blurry to tell for sure.

That is also a very bad rim ding and some odd reverse staining.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@half... I posted better photos. The coin is mess!

I probably paid 28 or so for it... But likely bought it because I hadn't seen the date before. If it were a 21 in that shape I'd have (and have) passed.

I've seen a few coins with that black cross stain on them in Italy... But no idea why.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If genuine, all I see is damage.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a little suspicious of the "8" although that would make no sense to counterfeit the "8". Otherwise, it looks like a well circulated '92. Not a high dollar coin but, I love the history behind the Morgans and would definitely keep her in my date set. Enjoy!
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 Posted 03/21/2023  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Date looks more realistic on the new set of photos. Hopefully, it is genuine, albeit damaged.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me. EF-45 details, damaged.
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 Posted 03/22/2023  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, again, everyone... I feel pretty confident I have only bought authentic coins. I am just trying to figure out mintages, values, varieties, etc.

This 92 p I feel is slightly undervalued (not my coin, because of the damage,etc. but the year in general). The 83 and 01 I posted appear more valued albeit less scarce ...
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 Posted 03/22/2023  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it was mounted at some point in a bezel or belt buckle. Looks authentic to me, though.
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 Posted 03/22/2023  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
w/paralyse on the mounting.

XF details ( PMD)
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 Posted 03/22/2023  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone.

It is a bit confusing to me because the 92 p seems to have less value, even in higher grade, than the 83 s and 01 o.

That being said, what would a coin like mine retail for? Certainly not melt but certainly low premium?
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 Posted 03/22/2023  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The more I look at your coin, I'm liking it more and more. Not for a potential grade but, for it's showing it's age through circulation. Makes me wonder where she's been.
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 Posted 03/22/2023  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@dsking, I am new - 2 or less years - to coin collecting and came into it almost by accident (a longer story) but that catches me on every coin. Focusing on American coins - but also picking up a few other world and ancient coins - I imagine it's life and, ultimately, how it ended up in Rome.

From an 1800 draped bust large cent, slicked out Barber coinage, to Morgan dollars - they all got here some way - on top of the lives they lived in the U.S. and who knows where else.

Some bullion grade coins I imagine came as bullion, or as part of someone's type set, or as someone's 'large silver' collection, etc., but a slicked out 1900 Barber dime? who knows. someone's pocket?
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 Posted 03/27/2023  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Final question on this one... Is this a capsule coin or a 'common date' tube coin?
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 Posted 03/27/2023  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is this a capsule coin or a 'common date' tube coin?


at XF45 a straight grade coin would retail for maybe $100 at this this grade with the rim issues and surface problems maybe half that. if it was mine I would just put it in an air-tight and call it a day. if I was attempting to complete a morgan set I would use it as a filler
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 Posted 03/27/2023  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pan... Thanks for all of your help. I usually airtight a coin if the retail is around $50+...I put 96 and 83 p s in tubes... Airtight it is...
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