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Poll Question
what do you,guys,think?
Edited by shtudentt 03/31/2023 9:35 pm
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It'll remain always the lowest production Heraldic Eagle ASE. In the future, I think that really is significant. I see it as potentially being worth more than the 95W. Those with Proof 70s with a certified matching and the early signed COA, are sitting on solid gold. And this coming from an OGP collector.
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It will rise in price but not likely much more than 5% annually. A figure all quality, numismatic coins achieve.
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I have 2 of them. They are being held as a "speculative investment", I think long term the value will go up, maybe not as high as the 1995 W but close enough. The big difference between the 2 is the 2019 S ERP was better released so many different collectors have them, the 1995 W was limited to collectors that could afford gold , it had a limited release. Long term value isn't built in a year or 2, give the 2019 S ERP about 20-30 years and it should be worth a few $$$$. The major thing for it is that its only one of the 2 Enhanced Reverse Coin. But to keep the eye candy the full set of 2019....  
Edited by hfjacinto 04/01/2023 08:41 am
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Quote: But to keep the eye candy the full set of 2019.... "Eye Candy" my butt, that's more like eye crack!
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The 5% Annually sounds about right. Being a Lower Mintage I too would of thought it would be A Higher Valued Coin, as stated prior, It should Continue to go up Also, PS, The 2018 Red Book shows the 1995-W 10TH Anniversary set @ $6,800.  EDITED to correct the Price, Sorry. Over $2,000.00 in 5 years, According to the book. The 2023 Red Book shows the 1995 -W set @ $9,000  The 2023 Red Book shows the 2019-S ERP @$1,200 Let's see what it goes to in 5 years.... I predict $2500-$3,000 
Edited by morgans dad 04/01/2023 11:30 pm
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The 2019 S ERP will continue to rise, slowly. Unlike the 1995 W, which I believe will continue it's drop from it's peak, of 10 years or so ago, there's no stopping the downward trend line presently for the 95 W. It is likely the 95 W, will only be propped up by the gold coins in the set, if sold as a verified, high graded set. I'd hate to be the guy/gal that paid over $85,000.00 for a 95 W, in 2013.
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Eagle, Really, I believe the 95 -W has a Strong Rising Value, Especially, As Noted, With the GOLD  Since 2018, the price has gone Up...  2023 Red Book values the 95-W Silver Eagle @ $4,000. 
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It looks like the 2024 Red Book is set to be released April 10th. (going by what I saw on Amazon anyway. Quote:Guide Book of United States coins 2024 Spiral Paperback - April 10, 2023 by Jeff Garrett (Author, Editor), Q. David Bowers (Editor) EDIT: I just "pre-ordered" this one from Amazon. They have a disclaimer that if the release price is lower when it comes out, I'll get a refund of the difference. (No mention what happens if the price goes up at release...)
Edited by Dearborn 04/02/2023 12:13 am
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Quote:2023 Red Book values the 95-W Silver Eagle @ $4,000. Do they say any particular grade or is that raw? I'd imagine that's about the price for a 69. When I got my set the price for the ASE was calculated at way less than that, then he factored it the gold value. That came out to about what I had been expecting to buy the complete set for.
Edited by Gilly 04/02/2023 08:45 am
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Quote: Do they say any particular grade or is that raw? The book does not specify, just says "PF" so their price is most likely just raw.
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I based my response on graded 95 W's sales, because finding an ungraded 95 W being sold raw, as an individual purchase, is pretty tough. That said, I did some further research, which I was too lazy to do when I first responded.  I realize Red Book is just a retail price guide. I don't know how Red Book can assign such a value when evaluating the silver 95 W on it's own, especially at $4,000.00, likewise have the entire set @ $9,000.00. Keep this in mind when reading on. Gold is up roughly 8% from August 2021, silver on the other hand remained flat, for the same period. Also, the sell price of the examples below are within $300.00 of each other. A recent sale on 3/14/23 on the bay, a full 5 coin proof set sold for $6,900.00. If you separate the gold from the silver, at today's bullion price, the gold alone without margin attached, comes out to roughly $3,700.00 +/-, add a very modest seller margin of 25%, you're up to $4,900.00 +/-, that leaves the silver 95 W at $2,000.00. Looking at 3 major auction houses that I can access, Heritage, DL and SB, over the last 3 years, one full set was purchased raw that I found. That set sold through SB for $7,200.00 in August 2021. Gold was around $1810.00 +/- at the time. Assuming similar margin as above, this puts the gold at $4,465.00, leaving the silver 95 W at $2,736.00. So, in this comparison, the silver 95 W value has fallen. I find similar on graded silver 95 W Eagles. I have no clue how or when PCGS and NGC update the current average value, but they are currently at $20,250.00. Over the last 3 years of 15 sold individual Silver Eagles, through Heritage, SB and D. Lawrence, the realized average comes out to $17,387.00, these all include some type of buyer premiums. Maybe I'm not looking at it right and I'm open to suggestions. Lord knows, I don't want this to be true for owners of the 95 W. Maybe what this shows is we're coming out of the COVID buying spree.
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Eagle, Well stated, Concise, Factual Response. You lay out is an Interesting Concept. While I see Specialty Sets, With coins that are Not sold anywhere Else, IE- The 10th Anniversary ASE Gold/Silver Set,  Rising Up from 2018, To Date. Why would the 2019-S not follow at least Closer than Reality Shows. ? PS, Imo, The 2019-S, the 1995-W, the 1889-CC, the 1895 Proof, they ALL climb, Some Faster than Others...... 
Edited by morgans dad 04/02/2023 4:31 pm
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Thank you MD! Quote: Rising Up from 2018, To Date. Why would the 2019-S not follow at least Closer than Reality Shows. ? Just a SWAG here but, if population figures are to be believed, out of the 30,000 figures on each years minting, totaling both services grade reports, the 95 W PF 70 grades at a rough rate of 30 ish %, where the 2019 S grades at a rate of 60 ish %. In 3 1/2 - 4 years, the 2019 S already has more than double at grade 70, than the 95 W has at 70, in 28 years. Surely the lower % at 70 grade will command a larger premium. Who am I to say what the premium should be. All I know is, this may be the only ASE I would not pursue at PF 70, unless I win the lottery of course.  
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I see the 95-W going up..... I also believe the 2019-S will Climb, Just NOT as Well as the 1995-W.... The fact that there are More PROOF 70's of the 2019-S , as shown prior, one would believe, the 70's would be Less Valuable than the 95-W's 70's, No ? Being there are Less Graded 70's of the 95, They would/Should be worth More and be Twice as Hard to Locate . There are Only 30, 125 of the 95-W ASE's out there. There are 29,909 of the 2019-S ERP's out there.If the rate of Graded 70's are Twice as Often as the 95-W, The 1995-W Would/Should command More Money, Correct? 
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 @MD, yes, I thought that's what I was saying.
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