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2001 $2 Coin Error! Please Help! Is This Double Struck Or DDD?

 
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 Posted 05/22/2023  01:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coin_poacher to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Having trouble with this $2 coins doubling, I really can't tell it's my first find with this type of doubling and am going off the double struck ww2 20 cent coin with similar look to the Queens head. Please help!



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 Posted 05/22/2023  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Machine Doubling.



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 Posted 05/22/2023  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin_poacher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you
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 Posted 05/22/2023  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like Machine Doubling.
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 Posted 05/23/2023  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin_poacher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quick question then from what I understand mach doubling is described as having a shelf like step while this coin the doubling is level with image. So is that not entirely true? Like it can be raised as high as the image or hub? Or am I looking at it totally wrong and not considering the coins been through circulation and the wear on coin is worn down to the level of the doubling?
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 Posted 05/23/2023  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SallyG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting coin. I'm curious as to why the effect only happens on part of the coin.

Seems to be similar to some of the die clash coins- the evidence of clash is visible but only on a part of the coin. Why does it happen that way?
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 Posted 05/29/2023  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin_poacher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found another 2001 $2 coin exactly the same error so it's worth keeping eye out if anyone interested in collecting errors and verieties
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 Posted 05/30/2023  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I understand, the Machine Doubling is a result of the die rebounding back onto the coin after it has been struck. To the purest, once the coin has been struck, anything that happens after that instant is not considered a mint error ( yeah I know, I'm scratching mine too).
So anyway it rebounds and bounces back and somehow, doesn't exactly match up. If this is the case then there must be a small amount of flex in the hammer die as it travels up and down, worn bearings for instance. When it strikes for the second (or third or fourth) time, the die drags down some of the devices reducing the width of them (@coop has an exhaustive series of videos and posts on the matter).
On an actual DDO or DDR this is not the case. There is only one strike which results in the double image already on the die being stamped into the blank. I can't get my head around how a double image gets from the hub onto a die I'll leave that for someone who knows.
But for an example of a Double Die Obverse , click this
http://goccf.com/t/79097&whichpage=27#3755524 ...... and scroll down to the second pic.... a 1981 50 Para from Yugoslavia.
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 Posted 05/30/2023  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SallyG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the detailed explanation and link to those examples. Cool coins; I would be happy to have them in my collection. More things to keep an eye out for.
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