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2022 Quarter - Die Scratches?

 
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 Posted 09/15/2023  3:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 13buriedtreasure to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Are these die scratches or would that have been from the original planchet?
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 Posted 09/15/2023  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Might be Feeder Finger Damage?
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 Posted 09/15/2023  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is an 2022 coin and the presses use now do not have feeder fingers. I saw some examples also for others years with same design of lines. For 2022 I saw a few. Me I think that could be Working Hub polishing scratches What do you think?
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 Posted 09/15/2023  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Check Dearborn's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think FFD, the striations are all perpendicular to each other and are only on the high points of the die. Whether vertical or horizontal, there HAS to be a mechanism to push in planchets and push out struck coins. I cannot see a planchet just falling into place perfectly every time without assistance of some kind.

I'm going to stick with FFD.
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 Posted 09/15/2023  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go with Feeder Finger Damage.
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 Posted 09/15/2023  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear you are wright about an mechanism to push out the coins from the collars band. they are like small pistons with relative soft kind of rubber and every second coin strike is push out of the collar. I do not see this piston could made this.

At one point I put here a photo of the polish die lines when they cancel a Die and the lines on this coin fit the marks. This it is my reason to believe if is the Working Hub polish lines. Others examples I saw 2022 the lines was in the same place. Will be almost impossible an feeder finger will let traces on multiple coins on same place and also an feeder finger damaged will not be use for two coins strikes.

Also the back lines behind the ear and the begin of the 2022 are not parallel and no feeder finger will be so large on the sides.

Could be also another reason for those last modern coins errors or varieties. Those are to new coins and must be more studies on.
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 Posted 09/15/2023  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silvio, are you saying that there would be the exact same polishing lines from year to year? How would that be posable? Polishing lines are from humans polishing the dies by hand. There is no way they would be the same year after year. It's more believable that the feeder fingers damaged the die every year the same way, As their motion is the same for every year.
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 Posted 09/15/2023  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cujohn, The presses do not have anymore feeder fingers from 2000, when the horizontal presses was start to strike.

In the hypothesis of feeder fingers, the lines will have this orientation ? on 4 mm large ?

I trace the orientation of the lines on the OP photo
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 Posted 09/15/2023  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the term "die scrapes" is preferred now over Feeder Finger Damage as there are a variety of moving parts that can cause that kind of damage to the die.

https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Die+scrapes
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