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When / Why Are Medals Referred To As "Ingots" ?

 
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 Posted 09/18/2023  12:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cptbilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
When I was researching the Lindbergh International Aerospace Hall of Fame medal, I located the D. Wayne Johnson database entry for the artist, Barbara Hyde. https://www.dickjohnsonsdatabank.co...barbara.html

Johnson catalogues her work under these headings: Badge Series; Medal Series; Medals; and, Ingots. Under the "Ingots" listing is a photo of the medal referenced above.

I usually associate "ingots" with bars or rounds of precious metals. What characteristic(s) would lead to calling a medal an ingot?

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 Posted 09/21/2023  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps it was a function of the site to which she uploaded her work? Programmers may have left few choices for categories.
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 Posted 09/21/2023  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would consider it a mis-categorization per accepted definitions of "ingot."

There are a number of similar "ingot" listings on this website that clearly are finished medals vs. an ingot.


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 Posted 09/21/2023  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cptbilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your comments.
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 Posted 09/23/2023  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The images are not properly ordered at the website of D. Wayne Johnson.

I'm familiar with D. Wayne Johnson website and book. We exchanged books in 2015 (his Who's Who Among American Medalist for my Authoritative Numismatic Reference: Presidential Medal of Appreciation Award Medals 1958 - 1963).



If you look at the bronze medals after the Ingot section, they do not match the ingot's description.

Links to the Worthpoint website (for visualidentification).

1973 Curtis Jenny Biplane ingot - Patrick Mint
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...r-2013106028

1973 Model T Ford Ingot - Patrick Mint
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...d-1000879370

1973 Pony Express Ingot - Mother Lode Mint
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...9-1759284653

1973 Prairie Schooner Covered Wagon - Patrick Mint
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...gon-77583224
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 Posted 09/24/2023  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cptbilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the clarification, DrDarryl.
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To answer the more general question, it's all to do with the shape. "Ingot" could be used for any square or rectangular medal, even if it's not specifically intended as bullion. The dictionary definition emphasises "block" and "oblong" (rectangular) shape, though I would also happily include "irregular" shapes, such as the ancient oxhide-shaped copper ingots, within the definition.

I wouldn't use the word "ingot" for anything round, or even oval-shaped, not even if it was made of bullion metal.

So yes, that website is incorrect in filing those medals under "ingots". Looks like it's just an compositional error; those images should have been copy-pasted to the start of the "Medals" list, rather than the end of the "ingots" list.
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