1889 O Morgan Dollar Clashed Reverse + Obverse - Help With VAM

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Worldcoins01 New Member United Kingdom 33 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 4:09 pm Hello, Just had this 1889 o Morgan conserved and graded and I realised that its some kind of clashed VAM. It doesn't seem to be the Vam1A or Vam20A so some help with identification would be great! I would have put variety attribution when grading but it was so covered in PVC it was bright green with such a THICK layer of sludge that I couldn't even see the big clash mark to the right of the eagles wing. NGC 62 btw Thanks for looking Report this Post to the Staff

jbuck Moderator United States 187914 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 4:10 pm Nicely conserved example. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Worldcoins01 New Member United Kingdom 33 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 4:23 pm Thanks & P.S. there is some funny business going on with the denticles below the date, they look kind of doubled and off-set but not too sure Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 5:34 pm to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
UnimpossibIe Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 7:50 pm Looks like the date is slanted, maybe a later die state of VAM-20 with more clashing and the E worn/polished away? Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5663 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 10:49 pm I believe it's a VAM-11. http://vamworld.com/wiki/1889-O_VAM-11 Report this Post to the Staff
UnimpossibIe Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 11/20/2024 11:24 pm Good call Zurie, I agree that it appears to be VAM-11. Report this Post to the Staff
MorganMike Valued Member United States 63 Posts	Posted 11/21/2024 08:29 am Vam11 is now listed as VAM 14. Your date looks very much like the wide date VAM 14. Take a look at the hair above the 2 right stars for the die markers. The VAM 14 makes no mention of die clashes though so I'm not too sure. This really looks like a VAM 20B but the date and mint mark don't match. Report this Post to the Staff
Worldcoins01 New Member United Kingdom 33 Posts	Posted 11/21/2024 09:33 am Looks like a VAM 14, all the markers but mine are quite a bit stronger than on the photos on Heritage https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dol...bnail-071515 Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8738 Posts	Posted 11/21/2024 10:10 am I think you guys have called it with VAM-11/14. Your example does look to have stronger clashing, maybe a slightly earlier stage. It just looks like mostly damage but could you get a nice clear closeup of the area I have circled? It would be cool if there was an E hiding ing there, where yours may possibly be an earlier stage. -makecents- Edited by -makecents- 11/21/2024 10:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
UnimpossibIe Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 11/21/2024 11:22 am The pickups on the VAM-11 example look much stronger than the VAM-14 examples, and your example is stronger than both. With such strong clashes I'm a bit surprised they lumped the VAMs together. Seems like a pretty PCGS thing to do. Report this Post to the Staff
Worldcoins01 New Member United Kingdom 33 Posts	Posted 11/21/2024 12:47 pm Thanks for the help everyone & I've looked at that section under every light and angle and there is just nothing there unfortunately. May be so faint that the grainy surface texture just hides it. effectively no E :( Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8738 Posts	Posted 11/21/2024 4:42 pm Thanks for the extra pic, was hoping. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
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