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James Monroe Dollar Struck On A Dime Planchet

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At this post, it's at $6,510. Wow. I am with Bryan, awesome coin to an error collector but I would rather spend that on other coins like keys.
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I've only had one off-metal coin. It was a 1964-D Nickel on a Cent planchet, but to find a coin like this would be a dream. If I ever get the money to really do some searching, it will be mint sewn bags of coins. I've only done 3 do far, 1959 Cent, 1960-D Cent and a 1974-D cent bag. I want to be able to search larger denominations.

It's so much fun to find something cool. The '74-D bag was weird. Almost all of the coins heavy die clash and over-polished dies with a 10 to 25 degree rotated reverse and instead of $50, it had $56.24.

I've seen other '74-D Cents for sale on ebay with the same problems.

I can't imagine the feeling this guy had when he found a Monroe on a Dime planchet, but I'm willing to keep working to find out!
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Makes me wonder if someone is seeding the stockpile to stimulate interest in the Presidential dollar program.
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Yeah, guess we will never know.
1 error out of every what, 5,000 bags? More?
I have a 1959 quarter on a nickel planchet but yeah, this is wild.
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Who's to say it's not worth that much? I mean, any coin is worth whatever someone will pay for it. Certainly it's a spectacular error, an rare example of a rare kind of error (particularly in modern coins), and the coin just looks great. I don't think there's anybody here who would say "that's a rubbish coin" or "oh, that's not so special".

If I could spend that kind of money on a coin, I would be tempted. The big risk is that there's a thousand more out there, I suppose.
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I emailed the guy and told him I thought his coin could sell for 10K or better and wished him luck on his sale.
He replied back thanking me and said it was a 17 thousand dollar coin.How does one come up with a price like that?
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Probably comparing it to similar errors that have sold at auction. Or that's what he paid for it.

Actually, looking for that Ike on a dime planchet, I see that it sold for $13,800 at a Heritage auction. $17k might not actually be crazy. There are a couple Indian Head cents struck on gold quarter eagle planchets that are estimated to be worth a quarter million or something insane.

Check these out. My favorite has to be the 1943 cent struck on a 1943 Mercury dime or the Ike die cap, which must be amazing in person being such a large coin.
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Here is another couple of amazing coins:
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Sorry I don't know what they brought. But I thought it was very nice to have both pieces.
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If I ever get the money to really do some searching, it will be mint sewn bags of coins. I've only done 3 do far, 1959 Cent, 1960-D Cent and a 1974-D cent bag. I want to be able to search larger denominations.

IIRC, the only "mint bags" you can get are things like a few hundred dollars of halves or brass bucks. Stuff like cents comes in $5000 face super bags weighing a couple tons, designed for automated high volume users.
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Is that a 73s proof ike?
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Is that a 73s proof ike?


Yep! NGC PR-67 on both. The pair sold for $40,250.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/120745003457

still got a couple more days.
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tbh, I think its fake.

I could be wrong but.

Look at the edge near Liberty's base. Looks like grinding to me.

i certainty wouldnt be taking this large of a risk.
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I think that has to do with the design, Liberty's gown.
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If you look at the fields, you can see kinda a shadow of a "rim" around the edge. That would be there because the dime planchet had already been through the upsetting machine, which raises and work-hardens the rim of the blank before striking. I think that's what's causing the distortion in liberty's gown near the edge and one of the reasons why it looks genuine to me.
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