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Anyway To Tell If These Rolls Are Uncirculated?

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Is there any way to tell by they way they have been wrapped and the wrapping used that the would be uncirculated and from the same year. The person I got them from seemed to believe so.
Or ultimately am I to open them up?



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 Posted 11/28/2017  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both look like they have already been opened.

Is that a blank planchet in the last photo, or a bad photo?
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The nickel roll looks original to me, but the penny roll looks like someone probably already opened it up.

I look at the ends of the roll to see if the paper has been peeled away; if it has, and the roll is not tight, then its likely been opened.
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Things aren't always what they seem to be on the outside wrappings... They may indeed be put up years ago, but "unsearched", now that is the question...


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The both appear to have been opened before and someone attempted to recrimp the open end (poorly).
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nss-52 it looks like a piece of paper just tucked in there.

Looks like the consensus is to just open them as there is no real point in assuming they are original uncirculated rol
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Looks like the consensus is to just open them as there is no real point in assuming they are original uncirculated rol


I think that's the best course of action. Just be sure to handle them carefully. If they do happen to be UNC rolls, get hard plastic tubes to put them in and that way, if you ever wish to sell them as UNC rolls, you know it's true and won't get burned.
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I've opened many original rolls over the years and my experience tells me they are both original UNC rolls. The red Brinks rolls tend to be loose on the ends and the way the paper is twisted on itself tells me it probably hasn't been opened. The extra paper on the '67 roll is just a piece that didn't get tucked in properly, the paper on the edges is again twisted just like it came out of the machine.

Don't get me wrong, someone could probably do it but 99% of the time the paper will rip on you and it's hardly worth the effort when the nickels are readily available $8-$12 a roll and the pennies come up quite regularly.

On a side note, I still support opening them, it brings back some sort of nostalgia for me like opening up a pack of old baseball cards. I've also found multi-year UNC rolls from Brinks before, I can't remember the exact years but definitely in the 70's. Good luck!
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I agree with Select - original, just banged-up. I have some of the same red wrappers and you can't reclose them that well.
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Here is the reason I said that both appear to have been opened. There are creases in the wrapper on one end only and they correspond to the questionably crimped end in both cases:

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As a side note, why would there be a piece of paper on the end of this roll?

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I'd agree both appear to have been opened at some point in time.

In the 70s I was a bank teller and I'll share my recollect with you. All larger branches had huge, noisy coin rolling machines. Loose coin from the mint was received in canvas bags but a lot of loose coin was received on deposit as well. Loose coin was then also rolled because you can imagine how difficult it would be for bankers to count great piles of coin each and every night when they were required to balance, to prove all the money taken in and handed out (hopefully) netted out to zero. When coin was rolled, the existing loose coin was rolled first but often new coin from mint bags was added at the same time. So it wouldn't be all that unusual to find an 'original' bank roll containing some circulated coin, or even all.

It was also common for tellers at the time to reuse crimped rollers by securely tucking in the opened end. Paper that is now 40 or 50 years old has softened (aka flabby, happens with age) compared to its original sturdiness. Therefore an 'original' roll could've been obtained directly from a bank but was opened prior to the customer receiving it.

I guess the point I'd want to make is I'd just open it because even if a roll hadn't ever been opened, there's no guarantee it contains only new coin from one particular year.

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Having opened a few of these, I can tell you it is virtually impossible to open these without making a huge mess of the paper. Maybe someone uncrimped the end and took a look at a coin or two from the ends. But those rolls are almost for sure mostly to completely intact.

Don't get your hopes up too much on the nickels. I opened a bunch of similar rolls of them a few years ago. Between the minting process and then the machines that Brinks used to roll them, the "bagginess" was high.
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