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What Would My Seminary Professors Say?

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I've been a Lutheran minister for over thirty-eight years. So, what did I purchase on the day we celebrate Jesus' birth?

Why, a coin with the bust of Zeus Olympios on it, of course.

I shutter to think what all my professors from years ago would say if they knew.

To top it off, the cult goddess Artemis is on the reverse.

It's a lovely coin from Maionia won today in an auction from a fellow CCF member.
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Say three Hail Marys and pick up a Christ-facing Byzantine follis. The slate will be clean.

Seriously, nice pagan AE.
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Say three Hail Marys and pick up a Christ-facing Byzantine follis.



There are Ave Maria counter tokens if that helps
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We Lutherans aren't into saying Hail Marys, but maybe I could buy a German Weimar Republic 2 marks with Martin Luther on it.


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Yeah, so Paul, that coin isn't exactly, well, Weimar. Rather, its origin may be more offensive than an ancient.
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Render to Zeus that which is . . .
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Arkie,

You're right! My goof. Yes, quite a different government than the Weimar Republic.

Maybe I'll need to go with the Byzantine instead.
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Don't misunderstand me. I have this coin, and other Nazi coins, and Soviet coins, and I'd own Mao/Chinese coins if I could find one that wasn't garbage. Just suggesting there is no redeeming social value, per se.
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Arkie,

While you are correct that it isn't Weimer... Is it really that offensive?
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I have a few coins of the type that @Arkie mentioned, including Mao. I look at them as pieces of history, but I guess some may find them offensive.

@Paul Bulgerin. Congratulations on winning the coin. It is a lovely specimen, and a magnificent portrait of Zeus.

Season's Greetings.
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@Paul, I think that you are OK provided that you don't worship your coin!
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Technically I think one could argue that the coin is still actually a Weimar 2 Reichsmark coin as the reverse is basically unchanged and lacking
that symbolism that didn't become prominent until 1935-6
Just like with Rome the fiction of the Republic was never really abolished but just subverted from within (SPQR)
The consolidation not becoming permanent until the passing of Reichs President Paul von Hindenburg in 1934
My second cousin Hans was "legally" arrested in 1933 and spent 4 of the next 6 years in and out of prison
(ie concentration camps)
I don't think he would have objected to you owning this coin of Luther
It lacks the symbolism that he would have been offended by

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The other coin in the lot is an AE-17 of Marcianopolis with crescent moon and three stars on the reverse. I can't be sure until I receive it, but, with the bare-headed bust, I think it might be Diadumenian, the son of Macrinus, on the obverse.


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