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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year and/or Mintmark and/or Denomination to Title. It's essential to have it in the title.  ***I found this coin several years ago, and finally made a copy of a normal strike with the new coin. It is obvious to me that the coin was cleaned up at the mint and the new portrait is so dissimilar to the original that other collectors thought at first it must be a counterfeit.. Now my question is this: If this die struck hundreds, or even dozens of coins - without further change, is it then a new variety? I understand that sooner or later the mint must have caught the error and removed the die. But what to call this specimen ? Please let me know what you think. 
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There are 20th century U.S. coins considered as varieties due to overpolished dies. The 3 legged Buffalo nickel is one of the best known. That 1974-D probably isn't an officially listed overpolished die variety (yet, anyway), but it definitely looks extreme enough to be considered collectible. Could we get a better image of just the coin in question, both sides? It would be interesting to see if the reverse die was also severely polished after a clash or other die damage. |
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But what to call this specimen? The Great Emaciator  |
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Could we get a better image of just the coin in question, both sides?  . I can't tell what you are asking about based on this teeny photo. |
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Interesting conversation. Personally, I can't distinguish much with the relatively small image posted. Photos of the reverse could give a bit more context. Thanks.
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There are probably hundreds of overpolished dies out there
including ones like yours where the neck has been polished out.
Technically they are not a true variety and would be overwhelming
to try to identify them all as varieties.
At what stage of the polishing would you identify it as a "variety".
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Personally, I can't distinguish much with the relatively small image posted. Too small? Try right-clicking on the photo and "open image in a new tab". Then you can enlarge it to your heart's content. |
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Jimmy, a 3.5 leg Buffalo nickel missing a tiny bit of the front leg will transform from a $50 coin into a $10000 coin. Collectors can have a weird fascination with overpolished dies. Also refer to the Kennedy half dollars and Lincoln Memorial cents with the missing FG initials. I think a nice example of a coin with severe die over-polishing could find a home in many collections of minor mint error coins. |
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I agree that there are some overpolished dies that have been given
fancy names and command a premium but my point is that you can't
expect every coin with a bit of overpolishing to be recognized. Where
would you draw the line as to what constitutes as being overpolished.
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I agree that there are some overpolished dies that have been given fancy names and command a premium but my point is that you can't expect every coin with a bit of overpolishing to be recognized. Where would you draw the line as to what constitutes as being overpolished. Davy Jones: "One soul is not equal to another!"Jack Sparrow: "Ah-ha! So, we've established my proposal as sound in principle. Now, we're just haggling over price." I really don't know. Some experts decided that a bit of polishing on a buffalo's ankle is worth $10000-20000 extra on a mint state coin. I can also see that we deeply catalog very minor doubled dies and RPMs. I think that coin has collectible value greater than 1˘. As for the question of who is the "they" that determines what die is a variety and which varieties have spectacular value, that sounds like an unsolvable riddle to be debated over pints at a coin show. Or on the Internet, but it's 11 a.m. and coffee doesn't motivate me to argue this stuff quite like Yuengling Lager. =P  Edited by Brandmeister
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Still hoping for better (Larger) images of this coin  |
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Quote:Still hoping for better (Larger) images of this coin If you would click on the first link I left you will get them. -makecents-
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