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Bosnia And Herzegovina
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The reverse image sure looks a lot like my restrike. It looks to be prooflike so I am going to say I bet it is a modern copy.
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United States
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I do not think you have a fake at all. It looks like it may be one of the most recent re-strikes that has been harshly cleaned.
Edited by Tim Stroud 02/05/2011 8:02 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Maria Theresa thalers used to be used in trade until the 1960's in some parts of the Middle East. There are now very many mint produced modern restrikes that have been made since the 1960's. For that reason, it would be be not worth the effort to produce fakes these days. They would have more potential getting into faking coins that have a much higher numismatic value. I have a modern restrike Maria Theresa thaler. I bought it at melt value. That is still all that it is worth. Nevertheless, it is still a pleasing coin to have. During the 1960's, British fake sovereigns were produced in the Middle East This activity was comprehensively stopped when The Royal Mint recommenced the production of genuine sovereigns, and flooded the fakes out.
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Canada
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I have one. It is a restrike. The one pictured looks cleaned as there are several scratches on the surface.
Proof copies sell in the $20.00 range. Cleaned ... bullion value at best.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Not a fake, unless the silver content is wrong or absent, it looks to be a re-strike and intended for bullion issue. See Here
Edited by COINAHOLIC 02/05/2011 8:19 pm
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United States
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Hello, veca, welcome to the forum! You've already gotten great explanation, I just would like to add that all the restrikes throughout the years were minted with the frozen date of 1780 with the symbol of "x" indicating that it was a restrike.  Nice looking coin, but unfortunately harshly cleaned!
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Norway
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Are you sure about the "x" indicating restrike, svslav? I have an Austrian thaler from 1765 which sports the same x. From pictures in Krause, so do the 1752. And all the half thalers from the same period. Are all these restruck as well?
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United Kingdom
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 Australia
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The "X" on the MTT isn't actually a letter X; it's the "cross of Burgundy", a ragged saltire. It was used often on Austrian coins; it just so happens that the vast majority of thalers actually struck in Burgau in 1780 don't have the saltire on them, so it's presence on a standard-design MTT is usually a pretty good indicator that the coin is a restrike.
As Swamperbob said, another good indicator of "restrike" is the shape of the "U" in "AUST". If it's "U" shaped, it's genuine 1780 or a very early restrike (up to 1805). If it's "V" shaped (AVST) then it's a post-1805 restrike.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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