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New Member
United States
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2001 LMC. It looks like there is an impression of partial lettering on the rim above america, but the only match that makes sense to me with the impression is AM ERICA inverted. (A mirror image of E-R-I-C from going from right to left). Is this just PMD from 2 reverses being smashed together?     |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It indeed looks like a reverse of ERIC. If so, it would most likely just be an impression from another cent being pressed together. A die strike would not show in reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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IMO its PMD....the letters on the Die would be sunk in not raised...a die would't make those marks...they would be the opposite. (Probably didn't explain it that well...) I'm not an expert...thats just my initial thoughts.... |
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New Member
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Yes it's definitely an imprint - not raised. That's why my first thought was the reverses of 2 coins smashed together hard enough to cause the backwards wording. I'm still just getting my feet wet so I figured I'd check with those who are more knowledgeable on here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't put this one to bed so fast without one of the die clash guys looking at it first. Either Mike Diamond or B.J. Neff should see these images to determine whether this is indeed post mint damage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is not post production damage, but a crazy form of Machine Doubling. The coin has bounce back into the retreating hammer die at such an angle that the rim came into contact with the die and transfer a portion of the peripheral lettering. I would contact Mike Diamond for he is keeping track of these anomalies and has written several articles concerning this form of Machine Doubling. BJ Neff Spoke to soon. I just did an overlay of the picture and used an inverted picture of ERICA and that is what it is PPD, or a meeting of another coin to coin and the transferring of those design elements.  Edited by BJ Neff
10/21/2011 07:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it were ejection impact doubling, wouldn't the letters be raised and not reversed?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't put this one to bed so fast without one of the die clash guys looking at it first. There is no way that could be from a die clash. The portion of the the die that makes that top surface of the rim is well below the level of the field. There is no way two dies in the press could clash and cause an impression in that location. Out of the press you might be able to bring two dies together to put an image there but it would be upside down and extending outward toward the edge of the coin. These do not. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The letters are incuse and mirror-image. Therefore, as "unholyroller" indicated, these are letter impressions from the reverse of another cent. Post-strike damage, in other words. If this was a case of rim-restricted design duplication (an exotic form of Machine Doubling) the letters would be raised and would face the same way as the normal design. Error coin writer and researcher.
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New Member
United States
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ok, so my first guess was right. An elephant with a penny stuck to his foot stepped on this one here just right... Thanks guys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Twas only a suggestion on my part to have one of the two guys who have chimed in to see what's going on before throwing this in the reject pile. I don't know all the nit-noids of clashes and such - it just looked to me like it had some chance of NOT being damage.
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